Twilight

[alexandral]

I loved this book. My head is quite light from reading for few hours straight and finishing it in one day but it was so great to have this book-reading binge (and compliment it with a stack of chocolate eclairs) ! YAY holidays! I guess I am still pretty much in love with vampire stories, meganbmoore! "Twilight" is just another prove that a "beauty and the beast" type of stories is my complete weakness.. Especially when the monster in question is aware who he is and tries to stay away and is protective to a very crazy degree. ** sigh **

This book was totally worthy a strange look I got from a "Waterstones"'s book shop assistant when my daughter and I were buying it (and another book, of course, for her - "The Wind in the Willows" :D). The guy was so clearly calculating in his mind - "HMM, you look a bit too old for this, lady, and your daughter looks too young!." HE-HE!!!!!!

Now, would he remember me tomorrow when I roll in to get the sequels for "Twilight"? I am so tempted to do this as they have "buy one get another half price" sale on children's books (where "Twilight" was surprisingly categorised) and I don't want to wait for these books to be delivered from Amazon..

Just a couple of quick questions:

- Not spoilery: Are the sequels worthy of getting a strange look from the shop assistant again? Are they any good?

- Will Edward turn Bella into a vampire one day???

Comments

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

But he SPARKLES!

I fear I will never be able to get over that enough to read it, it's just...a sparkly vampire...

But yeah, it seems to be getting more and more popular(from what I hear, though, I fear I'd end up shipping Bella and the werewolf)

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

I am desperately trying to find anything in your LJ about this - have you not finished it?? HAve you liked it?? Sparkly thing was played rather nicely but I MAY BE agree on overdoing on a parallel with angels (when I get over my squee about it!).. I think I like young Jacob (if he is the werewolf in question) well enough to ship him with anyone..

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

Never read it, actually. I've had a lot of people warn me away from it, but I have read up on it(focusing on positive things people say) and can't get over the sparkling.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

It is quite insignificant in the large frame of things.. If you didn't mention it I would have probably forgotten about this particular thing.. I guess the fact that you are not keen on "vampires are attractive" cliche is more important. There is quite a lot of it there..

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

it's not "vampires are attractive" or even "vampires are interesting" that i'm not keen on(i don't know how far you are in the Dresden Files books, but Thomas is one of my favorite secondary heroes ever) but the "all vampires are just poor woobies needing love and their emo tragic pasts will make all women love them" gets way too overdone. Much as I love them, I blame Angel and Spike(except that they were consistently portrayed as very dangerous and really not "good" so much as "behaving")

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

I love Thomas - he is so gorgeous!

but the "all vampires are just poor woobies needing love and their emo tragic pasts will make all women love them" gets way too overdone.

Hmm. May be you can like "Twilight", it is more about how dangerous they are but how attractive at the same time (they have these almost supernatural powers to be attractive to their pray which makes them prefect predators). And this one particular "family" of vampires chooses to live "clean" way and not to hunt humans but they are portrayed really quite far from woobies, rather very dangerous..

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

Have you read the 2 most recent books? I always loved Thomas because he was fun, and even though he came across as nice and well intentioned when it came to Harry(and we later learn that it was more for Harry and Justine than any sincere goodness, though that is in him) while still making him darker with a sinister undertone, but the 2 latest books sent him to a whole new level.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

I am just at the beginning of "Death Mask" - I caught "Twilight" fewer unexpectedly. :D I'll probably read it during these holidays.. I like the care Thomas had for Justine, no matter vampire or not and I am also very partial to any "illegitimate bastard child" hero..

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

Thomas turned out amazingly well give his psychotic and seriously evil family. Thething about him, though, is that he has the suave, polished veneer going, and the "trust me, I mean well," and there's enough sincerity that you want to believe him, but you're too smart to QUITE believe him(Harry never-rightly-trusted him until he knew WHY Thomas always helped him) until he gives you a reason. He has 2 people he loves, Harry and Justine, and he'll move heaven and earth for them(and he'll defend Murphy and another character I won't spoil with his dying breath because of Harry) but beyond that...well, you're just lucky that he tries to act the way Harryand Justine would want. He isn't a "bad boy" in the normal sense, but he's not quite "good" either. If more vampire heroes were like him(or Spike and Angel...there's a reason James Marsters is the fan favorite for Thomas) I'd be much more keen on them.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

He has 2 people he loves, Harry and Justine, and he'll move heaven and earth for them

Oh, this is interesting - I haven't gotten to this point yet. I don't quite see James MAsters as him .. No offense to Spike who is one of my favourite characters but he is not pretty enough..

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

heh. To heh honest, I don't really see him as Thomas myself...he doesn't have the right kind of "pretty," but I do think he'd do a good job in the role. Thomas is someone who should look about 30, impeccable and devastatingly handsome...women are supposed to just space out when he enters a room and just go to him like moth to a flame(the fools)

The bit I mentioned about Harry and Justine isn't really explicitly stated, just something you kind of figure out. He's actually somewhat straightup heroic in White Night, but even then he doesn't quite have pure motives.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

heh. To heh honest, I don't really see him as Thomas myself...he doesn't have the right kind of "pretty," but I do think he'd do a good job in the role.

He will fit the role of "reluctant hero" very well, I agree. But it is quite difficult to imagine women spacing on beholding him for a first time.. (before he starts talking, that is!!)

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

Yes...you have to wait until Marsters talks to get him. Hmm...if we could put his charisma into Orlando Bloom's body, we might have a good Thomas. Maybe. But we probably need someone even prettier.

You know, it may be a good thing the TV series didn't have Thomas. I mean, it'd be hard enough to find someone fairer and almost as tall as Blackthorne(and who could still act) without bringing in the fact that Thomas is also good looking enough to put him in the shade...

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

You know, it may be a good thing the TV series didn't have Thomas.

BAD, bad thing! :D The show could have survived if all females were drawn to him as butterflies. :D

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

A very valid point. I'm just thinking of the reactions of the book fans if he didn't live up to expectations...you know, the ones who threw fits about Bob having and incorporeal body, Harry not living in a basement, Murphy not being teeny and blonde, or Morgan being hot and not as vindictive.

I must now ponder the perfect Thomas...

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

Yep, it seems to be always difficult to appease everyone. I liked the way they made Bob and would have been too difficult to make him fully incorporeal in a TV show..

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

The Bob thing drives me crazy. As much as I love book!Bob, the simple fact is that you could never have a direct translation of him on normal cable TV. In addition to the fact that most TV actors capable of pulling it off would want their faces to be seen, Bob's mouth would probably get him kicked off scifi.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

Yep, I think they did it really good with BOB

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

Everyone seems to be reading these and I keep thinking about getting one of them for the next time I have some time to read non work stuff... But I hadn't heard about the sparkling. I am now curious.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

Oh, the vampire folk are really beautiful in these series and their skin kinda sparkles under direct sunlight (and this is why they can't show their face outside).

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

I am guessing that this is one of those things that works better when you read it than when you hear about it. Otherwise, like meganbmoore, I am bit stuck on that they sparkle. I will have to get the book at some point and see for myself.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

I think there is a slight overkill of the way vampires portrayed as really irresistible in this book but I like this because it is balanced out by the fact that they are ALWAYS described as perfect predators (like that fish that lights a little light on her tail to attract other little fish?? ). It makes some sense. Also it all written from Bella's POV and it seems totally fitting for a besotted teenager.