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I am watching "The last of the Mohicans". (I had to check it up as I have heard so many good things about it). So far very good in a "movie that will make your rainy day better" way and quite different form the book which I remember to revolve more around war and Uncas and his father than around romance. It is STILL all about white people but I really like Hawkeye. And it is sweeping-epic gorgeous! I am looking forward to making some icons from this!



It has been a while since I have read the book – it was actually in our school program reading for the "Literature" class. I remember discussing at a very great length how evil white invaders wiped off the whole population of Indians by making them fight against each other. And that Uncas died and the future of the whole nation died with him. BUT!!! I don't remember anything serious between Cora and Hawkeye. I must have forgotten this completely – was their kissing scene in the book?????????????????

Anyways, this is such a pretty and wonderfully romantic scene:




PS I have to go to the dentist this afternoon - I am not overly happy about this. :D

Date: 2007-10-19 12:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baleanoptera.livejournal.com
The film alters quite a few things, and doesn't follow the book very closely.

Still - this is one of my favourite films. The music, the cast, the cinematography is all so gorgeous. The last 15 minutes of the film are, to me at least, of epic proportions. Lastly Magua is a very good villain - by which I mean he is actually intelligent, scary and you can sort of understand him. This makes him truly fascinating.

I take it you haven't seen the whole movie yet? Because this is one movie I do not want to spoil you for. ;)

And if you make icons from this film I will love you forever. :D

Date: 2007-10-19 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterspel.livejournal.com
I have to second everything in this comment. It's one of my favorite films, I adore it beyond words. (I can't stand the book! This 1992 film is more based on the 1936 version rather than on the novel itself.)

Since I'm assuming you're watching the UK DVD, which was never butchered (http://www.mohicanpress.com/mo06036.html) the way the North American version was, I can rest easy that you're actually watching the original theatrical film. :)

And if you make icons from this film I will love you forever. :D

Me, too! In my scouring of LJ, I've only come up with one icon-maker who makes LotM icons that I like, so more icons would be a very, very good thing. :)

Date: 2007-10-19 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baleanoptera.livejournal.com
I can rest easy that you're actually watching the original theatrical film. :)

Yes, Clannad is still in place. :D But it was rather horrifying to read about all the alterations. Mann says he wanted to make the film less sentimental, but taking away such emotions from the film is slightly troubling. What Mann describes as sentimentalism I've always interpreted as sorrow and I also think the Clannad song works so well that I'm sad to see it go.

As for the book - I've tried reading it, but it simply wasn't my cup of tea. I just found the way it was written to be extremely annoying. But oh well, tastes differ.

And LOTM icons would be wonderful. I want some from the ending with Alice . I love that scene SO much. I think its combination of music and imagery is just perfect.

Date: 2007-10-19 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterspel.livejournal.com
The thing is, if Mann wanted to recut the film, that's fine. But don't take the original film away from fans who had spent ten years loving that version. The very least they could have done was include the original cut along with the new one. And not make me have to buy a UK DVD to have the film that I love.

What Mann describes as sentimentalism I've always interpreted as sorrow and I also think the Clannad song works so well that I'm sad to see it go.

I agree - and you know what's funny is that there seems to be three versions of that song: the one on the soundtrack is different from the film version, which is different from the version that was included on the Clannad CD that came out afterward. The film version was perfect for where and how it was used, imo. (I'm such a geek for this movie!;P)

Date: 2007-10-19 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baleanoptera.livejournal.com
But don't take the original film away from fans who had spent ten years loving that version.

I agree absolutely. But this seems to be a problem with directors doing a "final cut" or "final version". Suddenly you have a Star Wars where Han Solo does not shoot first, and a lot of confused viewers that feel cheated of the story they are used to seeing. I think a lot of directors forget that once a film is released it takes on a life of its own.

Also when a film is as visually coherent as LOTM (I would argue that half of that film's strength comes from the stunning cinematography and filming), altering this visual flow can have drastic effects on the way the viewer, well, views the movie.

But sometimes an alternate version can be a good thing. I couldn't stand Ridley Scott's "Kingdom of Heaven" in it's cinematic release form, but the Director's Version is actually not that bad.

The film version was perfect for where and how it was used, imo. (I'm such a geek for this movie!;P)

Hee. That makes two of us. And Clannad film version is perfect. It has always annoyed me a little that the film version is impossible to get a hold of. Thankfully my DVD comes with a "soundtrack only" option that allows me to play the film as if it was (almost) a music cd.

Oh and your icon is breathtaking.

Date: 2007-10-19 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterspel.livejournal.com
I've never seen Kingdom of Heaven, but I've heard this from several people - that they much prefer the Director's cut to the theatrical film. And I'll make no comment about the Star Wars/Han Solo fiasco. Ooops, does that qualify as a comment? ;)

Oh and your icon is breathtaking.

Made by the wonderful [livejournal.com profile] wizzicons from here (http://wizzicons.livejournal.com/22478.html). :)

Date: 2007-10-19 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baleanoptera.livejournal.com
I think Kingdom of heaven will always suffer from having Orlando Bloom as the main character. He is supposed to look pained and thoughtful, but it is never believable. But in the extended Director's Cut the rest of the cast is given room to shine and this helps the film immensely. Especially Eva Green's character is fascinating. Also the cinematography is breathtaking and I'm so shallow when it comes to stunning visuals that I like the film better just for that.

Parts of the plot is still problematic though, and historically correct it is not.

And Han shot first. I will fight for that until the grave. ;P

Date: 2007-10-19 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bzoppa.livejournal.com
I will third the request for icons!

This will make me very happy.

Date: 2007-10-20 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
I hope they will turn out to be good. :(

Date: 2007-10-20 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
It was lovely! I am really glad I got to watch it and probably I'll end up getting a DVD as it is such a good pick-up movie. (And here it differs from the book which is the saddest thing ever).

I can't stand the book!

I am not a fan of Cooper's writing but I have a little niggle - I would rather prefer if it DDL played Uncas (who was Cora's love interest in the book as [livejournal.com profile] dangermousie reminded) . I can't stop myself from thinking that it could have been better if the Native American guy was that hunky and NOT British guy. :D

Since I'm assuming you're watching the UK DVD, which was never butchered the way the North American version was, I can rest easy that you're actually watching the original theatrical film. :)

I think I did – it had that beautiful scene where Chingachgook and Hawkeye are following Magua, Alice, Cora and Duncan and "Clannad’s I Will Find You" is playing. Beautiful!!!!!

Date: 2007-10-20 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
EEEEEEE! I finished it yesterday!!!!!

The film alters quite a few things, and doesn't follow the book very closely.

I could just picture Hawkeye and Cora living in a cabin in the woods together. :D

Still - this is one of my favourite films. The music, the cast, the cinematography is all so gorgeous. The last 15 minutes of the film are, to me at least, of epic proportions.

I loved the film and agree with everything you say. I also understand why everyone recommends it as a pick-up movie. It has far less tragic and even rather hopeful ending. This is why I think the creators changed Cora's love-interest to be Hawkeye.

Lastly Magua is a very good villain - by which I mean he is actually intelligent, scary and you can sort of understand him. This makes him truly fascinating.

Hmm, I did think Magua came across rather like a usual breed of Indian scalp-snatcher (very deceitful betrayer), but again, I have a big BIG bee in my bonnet concerning the way the history of the fall of Native Americans is normally portrayed, beginning with Inca's conquest by Spanish and ending with the Thanksgiving day. I really would like to see a film one day which will explain the fall of Native American's tribes and the role of the white people in it.

I take it you haven't seen the whole movie yet? Because this is one movie I do not want to spoil you for. ;)

Hee! I check the ending usually BEFORE I start watching any film on DVD. ;D

And if you make icons from this film I will love you forever. :D

Oh, gosh, now that I promised I am worried if they will turn out to be good..

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