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I am at the end of episode 11 of "The Snow Queen". I think this will end up to share my favourite drama place with "A Love to Kill", though they are completely different. ALTK is full of very dark undertones, Doestoevsky-like emotions of complexity and Angst (with the capital letter). Where ALTK is dark, "The Snow Queen" is pure. Where ALTK is Dostoevsky-like, "The Snow Queen" is indeed like a fairytale written by Andersen. As to Angst, there is enough angst in the both of them, and amazingly beautiful angst. :D One of the best things I like about "A Love to Kill" is that IMHO it has the best cinematography in Asian dramas, totally out-of-this-world. One of the best things I like in "The Snow Queen" (apart from the main hero played by Hyun Bin :D who is a math genius and has the child-like wonder of the character) is that it is filmed like a movie, not like a drama. No slow moving scenes, no annoying secondary characters. As [livejournal.com profile] vierran45 said, everything serves the point.

And as ALTK has some of the best and most passionate scenes of "THE Kiss" (and not only among Asian dramas), "The Snow Queen" has some of the most fresh and heart-breaking scenes of "The First Love".

One of my ever favourite scenes in "The Snow Queen" is in the episode 10. And this scene is one of my "BIG LOVES". As [livejournal.com profile] dangermousie correctly pointed in her post, not all cliche's are bad. Some of them just do so much for me that I cry /laugh/get heart flutters every time I watch them. And this is one of my favourites scenes in the world:


My heart flutters/I cry every time:

- When for some terrible, terrible reason hero and heroine can't be together

- and he knows the reason, but she doesn't

- and he has to pretend that he doesn't love her because if she found that reason it would have broke her and he can't stand her to be broken

- and then she comes and tells him how much she loves him

- but he says he does not love her (though of course he does love her to death) and hopes she will just forget him, because he thinks this will be better for her

- and then they both are in the beautiful Angst.

Deuk Gu discovered that Bo Ra is a sister of his childhood friend (the one whose death he feels responsible for), so he quit from Bo Ra's house chauffeur position. But Bo Ra of course has a strong character and has to go and find out why he has left. This is a moment he sees HER. ** sigh **



And he starts to say something like "Don't come here anymore" and he obviously is trying to be rude because he thinks this is in her best interests and he doesn't mind that she will feel bad about him as long as she is happy.



And she keeps asking him why he quit and is quite forceful because he matters so much to her



He says "I am not your chauffeur" in a dismissing way, but he carefully avoids the eye contact and generally looks like his heart is about to break



And then he trns to go away, but she shouts "Stop"



And then she confesses her love - "I like YOU!!!"



And he is about to faint (or at least so he looks) and there is a mixture of many many feelings on his face - torture, pain, unbelief, but among all of it his eyes are so wide, surprised and crying for love.





And all he can say is "Don't joke" and goes away.



But she catches up with him and huges him.



But of course he still goes away and then they ANGST in unison listening to the music of Bach.






PS: Cross-posted in [livejournal.com profile] dorama_chat, here

Date: 2007-01-12 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hotarunokokoro.livejournal.com
where can i find this wonderful show to watch?

Date: 2007-01-12 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
EEEEEEE! You want to watch "The Snow Queen"!!!

If you familiar with torrents, there are here :http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/torrents.php?search=snow+queen&type=&sub=View+all&sort=, the hardsubbed episodes are the esiest to watch.

If you don't do torrents, you can join [livejournal.com profile] jdramas and download it from here (they also have instructions for using of soft subtitles) : http://community.livejournal.com/jdramas/tag/snow+queen

(you will need to join first, this is member only community)

Please let me know if you need to know anything else!!!!

Date: 2007-01-12 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hotarunokokoro.livejournal.com
OOo! thanks! *runs off to watch...*

Date: 2007-01-12 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
I hope you like it!!!

Date: 2007-01-12 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Oh my GUH.

I know what I am watching tonight.

Date: 2007-01-12 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
EEEEEEE! YOU MUST!! So much of gorgeous angst in episode 10!!! There is much much more!! ( I didn't want to spoil EVERYTHING). And I really like BoRa, she is strong and vulnerable at the same time.

Date: 2007-01-12 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Unless I get Hana Yori Dango 2, ep 2 today (because that trumps :)), I am watching more SQ! I actually just bought a box set of it on ebay. *glee*

Date: 2007-01-12 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
I actually just bought a box set of it on ebay. *glee*

With the English subtitles?? OMPH! This is incredible - it only finished the other day. EEEK! It is such a pity Mr. Alexander is not at home - I don't know how to use e-bay yet (or I would have spent the whole monthly income in one go fo sure).

I still can't locate English subs for Hana Yori Dango 2 or byakkotai though I have downloaded them both. ** pouts ** I should watch "Green Rose"

Date: 2007-01-12 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
There are no Byakkotai subs.

There are however HYD2 Subs.

Soft subs for ep 1 are at arashi.vox.com

Hard subs (by SARS) are at d-addicts.

Date: 2007-01-12 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
Thank you so much for the info!!! I have downloaded the soft ones. I like the girl (she s so adorable) and "Lei" guy ([livejournal.com profile] meganbmoore likes this actor, I think). I hope he will get someone!!!

But I HAVE to watch more of "Green Rose" - Jung-Hyun is just starting to recover!!!


Date: 2007-01-13 08:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-dian.livejournal.com
Oh my. Hyun Bin looks rather pretty here :D I think I'm starting to sway... ^^;;

Date: 2007-01-13 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
EEEEEEEEEE! I am full of glee as you see that you saying "rather pretty". ** jump up and down ** I can rec "Th Snow Queen" to anyone - it is truly one of the best things I have seen. What is your favourite drama? (HAve I seen it?)

Date: 2007-01-13 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-dian.livejournal.com
I don't really have a single fave drama 'cause there are just too many that I love, but my fave k-drama probably be My Name is Kim Samsoon. I babbled a lot about fave doramas in this meme: http://miss-dian.livejournal.com/39854.html

Date: 2007-01-13 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
Thank you so much for reminding me that post!!!! ** happy **

My Name is Kim Samsoon

But that involves Hyun Bin, right??? I loved Kim SamSoon to bits and it is definitely among my first 5, I ended up watching it in 3 days. It is brilliant.

Date: 2007-01-13 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-dian.livejournal.com
Yes, Hyun Bin is in MNIKSS. I loved the dorama but I didn't fall in love with HB. Not that there was nothing wrong with him, but I fell for Daniel Henney instead (who played Henry) *grins*

Date: 2007-01-13 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
but I fell for Daniel Henney instead (who played Henry) *grins*

I loved Henry too! Wasn't he just such a great guy!! This is why I like MNIKSS so much - it is always additional plus when I can fall in love with the secondary character too. :D I liked Hee-jin too - she was very pretty.


Date: 2007-01-13 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-dian.livejournal.com
Her real name is Jung Rae-won if I'm not mistaken. I liked the scene of her breakup with Hyun Bin. That was SO touching (especially the angst portrayed by Hyun Bin!!!).

Date: 2007-01-13 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
Feet washing scene? I cried buckets!!! (seriously!!). And there was that beautiful song there. Hand bandaging/Feet washing just make me go soft every time. It is so much about hurt/comfort.

Date: 2007-01-13 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-dian.livejournal.com
Oh that song is my FAVE song from the soundtrack :D

Date: 2007-01-13 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
It is beautiful. Though I like "Chopsticks" the most. And the moment where Hyun Bin keeps seeing Sam Soon everywhere and hearing it everywhere... ** swoon **

Date: 2007-01-13 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allbloomedout.livejournal.com
I am at the end of episode 11 of "The Snow Queen". I think this will end up to share my favourite drama place with "A Love to Kill", though they are completely different. I think this would be the same for me. I agree with everything you've said about both dramas.

"The Snow Queen" has some of the most fresh and heart-breaking scenes of "The First Love". I'm sure my eyes are pretty much swollen from all the crying. Sigh, Hyun Bin is killing me. I'm really hoping for happy ending but these types of dramas never end that way.

I love your picspam/recap. That was such beautiful/heartbreaking scene. :sniff: :(

Date: 2007-01-13 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
I know the ending (I am such a spoiler junkie) and can tell you if you want!!

That was such beautiful/heartbreaking scene. :sniff: :(

This scene and the scene where she came to the gym before his BIG boxing match broke my heart forever. I admire that Bora stands up for her feelings, and asks all the questions, the way she has much dignity in suffering. "Why did you kiss me" question was so forward and to the point :D. TW didn't seem to have much to say then.

I also want to finish your other comment (conglomerate them into one :D) if this is fine -

I hope more will come out this weekend. I'm dying here ^_^

On d-addict subbers, they say "QCing" in progress for the episodes 12 and 13. I noticed that it usually takes about 2 days after this. May be Tuesday.

Date: 2007-01-14 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allbloomedout.livejournal.com
I know the ending (I am such a spoiler junkie) and can tell you if you want!!
I can't decide if I want to know or not. I know either way I will cry. I think I'll try not to find out the ending for now. I will definitely ask you if I can't take it anymore ^_^

"Why did you kiss me" question was so forward and to the point :D. TW didn't seem to have much to say then. I loved how TW seemed to me taken off guard that she actually asked that. I love those looks he gives.. *sigh*

On d-addict subbers, they say "QCing" in progress for the episodes 12 and 13. I noticed that it usually takes about 2 days after this. May be Tuesday. Of course It's fine combining comments :) Thanks for telling me! :D

Date: 2007-01-14 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
I am not so worried about some endings if this is psychologically justified, though I prefer the "good" ones.

I will let you know when subtitles are out!!

Date: 2007-01-14 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allbloomedout.livejournal.com
I am not so worried about some endings if this is psychologically justified, though I prefer the "good" ones.

That's a good point. Even thought ALTK was a sad ending, I thought it was a good ending. Is Snow Queen a good ending? I think it will be considering how well written the drama is thus far.

Thank you! I can't wait for them! :D - Your Ji-hoon icon is so heartbreaking, looks like he needs a hug. ;) Have you checked out Goong S?

Date: 2007-01-15 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allbloomedout.livejournal.com
Subs for episode 12 and 13 are just released!! :D

Date: 2007-01-15 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
EEEEEEEEEE! Thank you so so much!!!! I was not going to check today (I thought _ I will be STRONG, but this is such a great surprise!!!) EEEEEEEE! I know what I am doing after I am picking Sasha from school!!!

Date: 2007-01-16 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allbloomedout.livejournal.com
You're welcome!!! I just finished watching it! Ahhhhh! I can't believe we only have 3 more episodes to go. I really wouldn't mind if this drama goes on forever. :)

I was not going to check today (I thought _ I will be STRONG, but this is such a great surprise!!!) Yay! I'm glad you were surprised! I was too. I've been weak and checking it every chance I get. ^_^

Hope you'll enjoy watching :)

Date: 2007-01-16 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
I just finished watching it too! AWWWWW! They are so lovely together. I feel the same - I will miss this when it is finished. Probably for the first time I will miss something, usually I just go to the next thing. This is definitely among 2 first favourites for me. :D

Date: 2007-01-16 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allbloomedout.livejournal.com
They are really lovely together. I got weak and watched the previews. I just can't wait to see it!
Probably for the first time I will miss something, usually I just go to the next thing. There's couple dramas I've felt like I missed a bit after but I doubt it will be as bad as this. Just waiting for the next episodes makes me miss it. I really don't know what I would watch after this. I wonder whats the next new good Kdrama after this..
This is definitely among 2 first favourites for me. :D Same for me. I might actually like this bit more than ALTK..It's really hard to decide since both are beautiful in their own way.

Are you watching Hana Yori Dango 2 as well?

Date: 2007-01-15 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quabazaa.livejournal.com
Hello I hope you don't mind that I added you!! I love Kdrama and your journal seems really interesting (art included) :)

Date: 2007-01-15 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
Thank you so much! I love love love kdrama and films. I like all Asian dramas, but Korean ones are my definite favourites. :D

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