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I am successfully re-reading through "A Feast for Crows", only 150 pages left! I will finish the book by Tuesday, it seems. One of the in-your-face things that I noticed is how much Jaime loved and still loves Cersei. This feeling seems to be so sad and so one-sided, as there is nothing in Cersei's chapters to indicate that she ever loved him in any way other than as her own mirror and as a convenient sex-buddy. But he is still so much in love with her, I am really interested to find out what is going to happen to them next.
I am so saaaaaaaaaad! And a little bit shipping them together, may be one day she will learn what she had and let go of (I mean Jaime's love)?
There is a handful of new Nikolaj Coster-Waldau pictures:




I am so saaaaaaaaaad! And a little bit shipping them together, may be one day she will learn what she had and let go of (I mean Jaime's love)?
There is a handful of new Nikolaj Coster-Waldau pictures:




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Date: 2011-07-10 06:24 pm (UTC)Cersei doesn't love anyone except herself and her children, ime, but somehow it's not her fault.
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Date: 2011-07-10 06:26 pm (UTC)Do you think her upbringing is to blame? Sometimes I think :"yes, to some degree", but then I remember that both Jaime and Tyrion were brought up by the same Lord Tywin, and they seem to be capable of love.
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Date: 2011-07-10 07:04 pm (UTC)I think grrm is going to make a couple of them to show jaime's growth shallow, scheming cersei to loyal, plain brienne while brienne will have to struggle with whether to break an unjust vow to kill jaime. Loving him will make it that much harder.
It would be nice to have cersei realize what she's lost when its too late :) I don't know that its anyone's fault that she is so self absorbed.
And isn't nikolaj super sexy in that picture with the hoodie!
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Date: 2011-07-10 07:14 pm (UTC)And yes, Brienne is so much better, it seems that Cersei can not care less for Jaime. I AM SAD! What if Jaime does not love Brienne and what he feels is just friendship/respest/whatever?
I am not too worried about the vow, I think Brienne will not keep it if she makes it.
It would be nice to have cersei realize what she's lost when its too late :)
It would. I don't think this is likely to happen, though. She does not seem to care.
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Date: 2011-07-10 07:46 pm (UTC)it looks like it could happen. it feels right to me because when we first meet jaime, there is no way he would give this woman a second thought. now he's dreaming of her and coming to her rescue.
i almost wish it would just so cersei can lose it all over again. she would think he'd gone mad. but i think you're right - she does not seem to care.
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Date: 2011-07-10 10:05 pm (UTC)I think Brienne is fully in love with him, though. She does remember Renly, but more in a vague, "I can not remember his face" way.
but all in all, I do not think those two will be ever .. cough couhg .. doing it. As much as I want them to, I do not think theirs is this type of love. I think we are in for years and years of UST.
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Date: 2011-07-10 07:23 pm (UTC)Jaime+Brienne forever...is this just wishful thinking?
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Date: 2011-07-10 07:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-07-10 07:25 pm (UTC)+I love your little discussions. I have to say whilst Jaime certainly loves Cersei more... I think it has to be said that she does love him. She does say things, not a lot, but they do show that she does love him. She knows that she is not complete without him and argh idk they are so complicated! But ultimately I don't think one can be without the other. No matter what happens I believe they have to be together.
(and I can't stand the idea of them not...*cries*)
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Date: 2011-07-10 07:37 pm (UTC)Although I never ever shipped Jaime and Cersei, I just want him to be happy and have what he wants, even if this means Cersei. There was a passage in AFFC where he admits that he did everything in his life for Cersei.
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Date: 2011-07-10 08:02 pm (UTC)I think they are one of my oldest ships and I just love them so much -
there is something about them, their whole situation that just draws me in... Yeah, his world does revolve around her.
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Date: 2011-07-10 10:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-07-10 10:06 pm (UTC)Yeah a lot of my ships are really tragic (also cause they are non-canon).
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Date: 2011-07-10 10:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-07-10 10:13 pm (UTC)With aSoIaF I'm pretty canon actually, rather surprising XD
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Date: 2011-07-10 10:17 pm (UTC)I think Brienne is head-over-the-heels in love with jaime, though, and I think Jaime is on his way. But You never know with Martin.
The only non-canon ship in ASOIF I ship is Jaime/Loras,. :D
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Date: 2011-07-10 10:20 pm (UTC)Mmm idk idk! That's so true, he can totally screw with us.
Oh interesting ship - I think I should have a dabble around and look into other ships. Though atm I just want SanSan and Stannis/Melisandre
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Date: 2011-07-12 10:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-07-12 10:38 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-07-10 07:31 pm (UTC)Those pics dayuum NCW so beautiful.
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Date: 2011-07-10 07:43 pm (UTC)I just want to understand what Jaime thinks. :D I guess I always hated love trianges, especially proper love triangles as Jamie/Cersei/Brienne, where it is not really cleary whom he loves.
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Date: 2011-07-11 12:22 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-07-12 10:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-07-10 07:51 pm (UTC)this!
i am so anxious to see how this turns out...
but alas it won't be until book 6 i hear.
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Date: 2011-07-11 12:25 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-07-10 07:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-07-10 07:46 pm (UTC)Also - I just finished re-reading the chapters about Quiet Isle and Sandor Clegane. The thing I want the most is to know what he is truly like now. Imagine Sandor clearing tables at the monastery? I WANT TO KNOW what is going to happen to him next.
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Date: 2011-07-10 08:31 pm (UTC)Anyway, all his "There is no true knight" make me think that, in the end, he will turn out to be/become a true knight. And yes, his stay at the monastery and the wisdom of the Elder brother will play a part in it.
He'll leave the monastery to save sansa and kill his brother... But, s the prophecy says, sansa is the Maid with the purple serpents in her hair and she will slay the Giant aka Gregor... So I guess, Sandor & Gregor will fight, Sandor will be close to loose but Sansa will save him XD (in her castle of snow... Winterfell?)
And YES for Jaime/Brienne/Cersei... But i'm afraid this will end badly... Most likely Cersei being jealous of Brienne and poisoning her (or send Gregor to kill her?). This will end Jaime's love for his sister and... he'll kill her? (another prophecy, I think...)
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Date: 2011-07-10 10:15 pm (UTC)I do think it will be Brienne who will save Sansa, because she is so determined. But there is a possibility they will meet and do it together?
But, s the prophecy says, sansa is the Maid with the purple serpents in her hair and she will slay the Giant aka Gregor... So I guess, Sandor & Gregor will fight, Sandor will be close to loose but Sansa will save him XD (in her castle of snow... Winterfell?)
That mightbe Eyrie, it is pretty cold and snowy there. And Sandor might not be there, who knows what Martin will do?
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Date: 2011-07-10 10:19 pm (UTC)But Lady Stoneheart MUST be the one who kills Littlefinger. :D After all, he's the one who betrayed her husband, killed her sister, kisses her daughter :S
Petyr Baelish, if she hears about this, you're DEAD XD
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Date: 2011-07-10 10:21 pm (UTC)But YES. I would love for Littlefinger to die from her hands, nothing would make me happier.
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Date: 2011-07-10 10:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-07-12 10:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-07-10 10:35 pm (UTC)The interesting thing for me about AFfC, which I just finished rereading last night, is how I felt so much of what Jaime was doing was falling out of love with Cersei. In doing so, I think he actually paints her somewhat darker than she deserves, because I think she loves him as much as she's capable of loving a man, though her love becomes more selfish as her grasp of reality starts to fade.
As for Jaime and Brienne, I ship them, too, but I don't know if we're going to get our wish. I think his feelings for her may end up being more of a lesson in what to appreciate and respect in anyone - a partner, a friend, whatever - and not something romantic. Though I will be very happy to be proven wrong.
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Date: 2011-07-12 10:24 pm (UTC)I don't think Jaime is going to be WITH Breinne , in the same way I don't think Sandor is going to be WITH Sansa. I think both relationships are just the vehicles to push the characters forward. But this is why I love the relationships. :D
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Date: 2011-07-11 01:08 am (UTC)EDIT: I really like the last one. I think if he didn't have that long hair I would get over the fact that he looks like Prince Charming on Shrek. lol.
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Date: 2011-07-12 10:26 pm (UTC)The last one is the best, it is made as if he really looks AT you. I like him with short hair more, as well.
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Date: 2011-07-11 01:34 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-07-12 10:27 pm (UTC)But he does need to find someone, anyone really.