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game_thrones community. I am cross-posting the results so that I can keep track of this.
This is the second poll of this kind, the results of the previous run (created after the episode 5 of the season 1) can be found here.
Sub-poll 1: The character(s) you love the most
There aren't too many surprises in this category. There are few changes in comparison with the previous run, though. Tyrion has moved to the first place, placing Arya as the second. Dany has moved to the third place, placing Jon as the fourth. There is much less love for Jaime : he gave way to Sansa and Robb who share the fifth place.
Sub-poll 2: Character you love to hate
Few people asked for clarification of the "love to hate" term. This is the explanation I found scouting the Internets (Wordreference.com), which corresponds with my understanding of the term: "The term was most famously applied to Erich von Stroheim, a German actor of the silent and early sound period, who made a career of playing villainous Prussian noblemen. His portrayals were so strong that the audience would enjoy the feelings of animosity he engendered. Therefore, he was the man you love to hate."
The way I see it - the character you love to hate is the character you hate, but at the same time she/he engenders strong feelings from you and is important to the story. It is not an easy thing to write a bad character that is not cartoonish and will feel real enough to hate strongly. Someone you can channel your pent-up rage towards. My apologies for the late explanation.
There are some major changes in this sub-poll in comparison with the previous run. Joffrey seems to engender the universal hate and loathing, with as much as 67% of the voters naming him as their most hated character.
Also, as far as loathing goes, Petyr Baelish has moved up.
One surprising result for me personally: Catelyn is still hated more than Gregor Clegane, Walder Frey, Alliser Thorne and the rest. Although, looking on the positive side - Catelyn hate decreased from the previous run.
But no-one hates Ned Stark!!!!!
Sub-poll 3: The best casting
Tyrion is leading - 61% of voters list him are one of their favourite castings!
And YAY! Bronn received three votes (one of them mine)!
Sub-poll 4: Your favourite pairing
Shipping! The results are very interesting. I have heard some worrying reports from here and there that large numbers of folks don't like Ned and Cat.
Do not fear! Ned/Cat as OTP triumphs everything! Yes to the great love and partnership! Dany/Drogo came second, although I am personally not very sure about this ship. Sansa/Sandor came third - the story of the Beauty and The Beast will never die!
The honorable mentions go to : Loras/Renly and Arya/Gendry (fourth and fifth).
There is also an amazing number of inventive ships! "Ros/Another Show" is my personal favourite, but there are also many other great ones, like "Jon Snow's hair/The wind".
Plsease feel free to discuss the results and bond over the shared favourites.
game_thrones community. I am cross-posting the results so that I can keep track of this.This is the second poll of this kind, the results of the previous run (created after the episode 5 of the season 1) can be found here.
Sub-poll 1: The character(s) you love the most
There aren't too many surprises in this category. There are few changes in comparison with the previous run, though. Tyrion has moved to the first place, placing Arya as the second. Dany has moved to the third place, placing Jon as the fourth. There is much less love for Jaime : he gave way to Sansa and Robb who share the fifth place.
Sub-poll 2: Character you love to hate
Few people asked for clarification of the "love to hate" term. This is the explanation I found scouting the Internets (Wordreference.com), which corresponds with my understanding of the term: "The term was most famously applied to Erich von Stroheim, a German actor of the silent and early sound period, who made a career of playing villainous Prussian noblemen. His portrayals were so strong that the audience would enjoy the feelings of animosity he engendered. Therefore, he was the man you love to hate."
The way I see it - the character you love to hate is the character you hate, but at the same time she/he engenders strong feelings from you and is important to the story. It is not an easy thing to write a bad character that is not cartoonish and will feel real enough to hate strongly. Someone you can channel your pent-up rage towards. My apologies for the late explanation.
There are some major changes in this sub-poll in comparison with the previous run. Joffrey seems to engender the universal hate and loathing, with as much as 67% of the voters naming him as their most hated character.
Also, as far as loathing goes, Petyr Baelish has moved up.
One surprising result for me personally: Catelyn is still hated more than Gregor Clegane, Walder Frey, Alliser Thorne and the rest. Although, looking on the positive side - Catelyn hate decreased from the previous run.
But no-one hates Ned Stark!!!!!
Sub-poll 3: The best casting
Tyrion is leading - 61% of voters list him are one of their favourite castings!
And YAY! Bronn received three votes (one of them mine)!
Sub-poll 4: Your favourite pairing
Shipping! The results are very interesting. I have heard some worrying reports from here and there that large numbers of folks don't like Ned and Cat.
Do not fear! Ned/Cat as OTP triumphs everything! Yes to the great love and partnership! Dany/Drogo came second, although I am personally not very sure about this ship. Sansa/Sandor came third - the story of the Beauty and The Beast will never die!
The honorable mentions go to : Loras/Renly and Arya/Gendry (fourth and fifth).
There is also an amazing number of inventive ships! "Ros/Another Show" is my personal favourite, but there are also many other great ones, like "Jon Snow's hair/The wind".
Plsease feel free to discuss the results and bond over the shared favourites.
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Date: 2011-06-27 01:40 pm (UTC)Well, she's a girl after all. Probably why Cersei is before Tywin and Viserys, too. (Though, speaking of hated female characters, I would have thought Lysa would be higher up there. I don't particular hate her myself so much as I kind of forget her.) And that's not to say that she isn't an awful person-though I'm quite fond of her myself-but there are way, way worse. And why is Robert so low?!?!?
But I actually commented to ask: this is just for the first season, right? Because if so, Arya and Gendry's 5~ seconds of interacting either really influenced people, or there is cheating going on here!
I also suspect the casting of Dany and Drogo and the actors having chemistry have made people forget the actual going-ons there.
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Date: 2011-06-27 01:53 pm (UTC)As to the others: Viserys came across as poor misunderstood woobie in the show.
In Lysa's case, I thought the show Lysa was too OTT cartoonishly disgusting to call for any strong hate (and we haven't gotten to her worst moments yet, not many people have read as far as the last book, methinks).
But I actually commented to ask: this is just for the first season, right? Because if so, Arya and Gendry's 5~ seconds of interacting either really influenced people, or there is cheating going on here!
Arya is the fandom favourite and her ship is bound to do well as soon as any TINY possibility of shipping has arisen (see how high Robb's ships are? And he hasn't even done as much as looking at anyone?) . I don't thik it is cheating.
Some people voted for the characters that are not in the season 1, but there isn't many of those votes.
I also suspect the casting of Dany and Drogo and the actors having chemistry have made people forget the actual going-ons there.
Yes, but I don't think this excuses anything. I think this is the case of "my eyes like it, forget the rest" shipping. Plus she is supposed to be 15 in the show - she does not look like it, but if the show creators tell me she is, I am inclined to adjust my thinking this way. After all, some of my daughter's friends look 18 (12 years of age), I do not want a different set of standards for them just because they do not LOOK 12.
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Date: 2011-06-27 04:05 pm (UTC)But Viserys is interpretted as coming across as a woobie? Really? I mean, he was still an abusive creepster who liked to talk about how he'd let his sister get raped by an entire tribe without a second thought to get what he wants.
I also find it weird that Jaime, in discussions at least, seems to be getting way more criticism than a lot of characters I feel are more deserving? Like, I'm not a fan of Jaime at all (and agree with queenofthorns that the show has made him even less likable at this point) but feel Viserys (obsessive abuser who openly sees and treats his sister as chattel), Baelish (whose arc is essentially about punishing Cat for not loving him, so he helps keep corruption on the throne and betrays her husband without caring what it'll also do to her daughters without a second thought) and Drogo (rapist who likes to make speeches about how he's going to go to his wife's homeland and rape all the women and kill all the children) are much more deserving. (Also, Jaime's actions, while contemptible, are consistently in the interest of protecting his siblings, so unlike the others, I can at least sympathize with his reasons.) Then again, the others hurt/punish women and, aside from Bran, Jaime's actions have been against men held up as "Heroic," and one we're supposed to accept as "the way things are" by fiction in general, and the other is The Worst Offense Ever.
Uhm...my annoyance with narrative trends and internalized misogyny just took over there. Sorry.
But really, with Dany/Drogo...cast Emilia Clarke and Jason Momoa in something where she's playing a character her age and he isn't a marauding rapist, and I'll be all over it. Here? No thank you with a cherry on top.
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Date: 2011-06-27 04:24 pm (UTC)Me too, but I notice the trend. I know Aiden Gillen from "The Wire".
But Viserys is interpretted as coming across as a woobie? Really? I mean, he was still an abusive creepster who liked to talk about how he'd let his sister get raped by an entire tribe without a second thought to get what he wants.
I still hate him too. But for some reason, I felt that the show looked with a slight sympathetic eye on this character, which was totally missing in the book. In the book I was all "Bring in the pitchforks now!" but in the show, I felt for Viserys a couple of times. This all said, I still hated him, I just think his representation was more sympathetic.
I also find it weird that Jaime, in discussions at least, seems to be getting way more criticism than a lot of characters I feel are more deserving? Like, I'm not a fan of Jaime at all (and agree with queenofthorns that the show has made him even less likable at this point) but feel Viserys (obsessive abuser who openly sees and treats his sister as chattel), Baelish (whose arc is essentially about punishing Cat for not loving him, so he helps keep corruption on the throne and betrays her husband without caring what it'll also do to her daughters without a second thought) and Drogo (rapist who likes to make speeches about how he's going to go to his wife's homeland and rape all the women and kill all the children) are much more deserving. (Also, Jaime's actions, while contemptible, are consistently in the interest of protecting his siblings, so unlike the others, I can at least sympathize with his reasons.) Then again, the others hurt/punish women and, aside from Bran, Jaime's actions have been against men held up as "Heroic," and one we're supposed to accept as "the way things are" by fiction in general, and the other is The Worst Offense Ever.
My personal opinion (which is not proven by any hard facts) is that in GoT fandom (LJ fandom mostly) I notice some strange Starks vs Lannisters thing going. I notice many folks expressing opinions that "Starks are good" and "Lannisters are bad". I think this is why both Jaime and Cersei are so unpopular (although Cersei's popularity improved since the last poll run). I am getting a bit tired with "Starks are good so good" thing myself. For example, I have no clue why everyone loves Robb so much. But you know what I think? Many folks LOVE Robb and view Jaime as Robb's enemy (and the enemy of the North, ha!). So thnk this is why Jaime is voted to be hated so many times - because he is against Robb.
Baelish and Drogo are a different kettle of fish, I honestly believe that their popularity due to the actors' strong popularity and charisma. Alen Gillen makes Baelish look "cool" and "cool" is popular. Jason Momoa has an amazing six-pack, so he is also very popular.
But really, with Dany/Drogo...cast Emilia Clarke and Jason Momoa in something where she's playing a character her age and he isn't a marauding rapist, and I'll be all over it. Here? No thank you with a cherry on top.,/I>
Me too, this is why I don't worry about Dany/Drogo too much. This OTP will not be among the next season faves, I think.
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Date: 2011-06-27 05:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-06-27 05:25 pm (UTC)