Game the Thrones: Finale, episode 10.
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alexandralI am feeling extremely rambly and happy. This was such a good finale! Dragons were so awesome , but I was glad that the scene with Dany breastfeeding the baby dragons was omitted. I woke up an hour earlier , so that I can watch the finale before going to work. I don't quite share the doom and gloom, and "what am I going to do now???" mood. Now the first season is over, but I can always :
a) re-watch, so that I notice some things that I haven't. For example, I still want to know where is Roose Bolton (he has to make it into the show, right? Who is going to take over Harrenhal?)
b) re-read. I have just finished Game of Thrones re-read and started A Clash of Kings re-read.
c) Read the new book that is out in July!
Trying to do a little bit of post-show analysis, I must point a couple of flaws in the show that I have noticed:
1. Uneven pace and odd editing in the first few episodes
2. Sexposition scenes with Ros-the-whore, which, as![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
lage_nom_ai noted, is just an example of lazy writing, and an aesthetically disgusting example at that. As a math-freak I am, I added all the time of sexposition scenes in the first season, and it adds up to between 20-30 minutes. 20-30 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Imagine 20-30 minutes of other good things instead!
3. Some important material didn't make it to the show.
Everyone probably has their own scenes they think should have made it into the show. For me, it was the Little Bird scene between Sansa and the Hound, which was a very important one for both of these characters. Also the scene was important because of "There are no true knights" message that it conveyed.
But for someone who does not care for The Hound at all, may be there is another scene that they think should have made it into the show. The missing direwolf scenes should have been there, for sure!
But , after all is said and done, I have not been obsessed with anything as much as I was with "Game of Thrones" for ages. Not since "Chuno"(Slave hunters), and this was over a year ago. The obsession has to count! I love the show!!!! And there is a huge list of good things I can write about it, a list that will be much longer!
The rest of the post is my Sansa/Sandor inner shipper talking, spoilers for the episode 10, no book spoilers.
I loved the scene where Joffrey shows Sansa the head of her father. Sophier Turner was magnificent and so was Jack Gleeson. I also was really pleased how the little scene between The Hound and Sansa played out. I was so pleased that I have almost forgiven the creators the missing Little Bird scene. It seems I am beginning to understand the show's version of The Hound. They made him much softer, and I like it. This is may be why they had Littlefinger to tell Sansa his story. Thinking back, it felt as one of those things that Littlefinger likes to do for fun: make Sansa so scared of The Hound, where in reality Sandor Clegane is one single decent person in that nest of vipers that Joffrey's Kingsguard is.
So I was making noises of "AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW" during the scene of the Hound saving Sansa from trying to grab Joffrey and committing murder/suicide (as much as I hate Joffrey, I do want Sansa alive). The part where The Hound gave her a hankie and his hands were SHAKING was fabulous. I don't know if I said it before, but I like Rory McCann, I like him a lot, especially his voice. What is definitely good in this show is the choice of actors.
Please help, I am curious about one small detail. This is something we discussed withlydzi. Please check the screencap above. What does the Hound give to Sansa? A lace handkerchief or a rough piece of cloth? It looks like a dirty piece of cloth to me, which made me giggle a bit. I imagine this is not the last time we see this piece of cloth too.
There is also a video where David Benioff talks about the Hound and Sansa (please see the video below, shamelessly stolen fromsunnytyler001). I am so impressed. He gets the relationship perfectly!! And speaking of what David says, the part where everybody always have looked away from The Hound's face? There was a moment where Sansa actually looked straight at the Hound, and this was lovely.
Also - Joffrey looked rather shocked at Sandor's gesture. There is a passage in Cersei's POV chapters where she remembers how lonely Joffrey has always felt and how he was looking for a father figure, out of all people, in the Hound.
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There is something I noticed as well, just a little thing. Sansa took off Joffrey's locket, and put on her dragonfly necklace again, the one she brought from home. I have a necklace just like that one! (I got it at a craft fair last year):
PS: I have a question for book fans: What scene do you think should have been in the show, but wasn't included for some reason?
PS2: How badly do you wish a slow and painful death to Joffrey?
a) re-watch, so that I notice some things that I haven't. For example, I still want to know where is Roose Bolton (he has to make it into the show, right? Who is going to take over Harrenhal?)
b) re-read. I have just finished Game of Thrones re-read and started A Clash of Kings re-read.
c) Read the new book that is out in July!
Trying to do a little bit of post-show analysis, I must point a couple of flaws in the show that I have noticed:
1. Uneven pace and odd editing in the first few episodes
2. Sexposition scenes with Ros-the-whore, which, as
lage_nom_ai noted, is just an example of lazy writing, and an aesthetically disgusting example at that. As a math-freak I am, I added all the time of sexposition scenes in the first season, and it adds up to between 20-30 minutes. 20-30 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Imagine 20-30 minutes of other good things instead!3. Some important material didn't make it to the show.
Everyone probably has their own scenes they think should have made it into the show. For me, it was the Little Bird scene between Sansa and the Hound, which was a very important one for both of these characters. Also the scene was important because of "There are no true knights" message that it conveyed.
But for someone who does not care for The Hound at all, may be there is another scene that they think should have made it into the show. The missing direwolf scenes should have been there, for sure!
But , after all is said and done, I have not been obsessed with anything as much as I was with "Game of Thrones" for ages. Not since "Chuno"(Slave hunters), and this was over a year ago. The obsession has to count! I love the show!!!! And there is a huge list of good things I can write about it, a list that will be much longer!
The rest of the post is my Sansa/Sandor inner shipper talking, spoilers for the episode 10, no book spoilers.
I loved the scene where Joffrey shows Sansa the head of her father. Sophier Turner was magnificent and so was Jack Gleeson. I also was really pleased how the little scene between The Hound and Sansa played out. I was so pleased that I have almost forgiven the creators the missing Little Bird scene. It seems I am beginning to understand the show's version of The Hound. They made him much softer, and I like it. This is may be why they had Littlefinger to tell Sansa his story. Thinking back, it felt as one of those things that Littlefinger likes to do for fun: make Sansa so scared of The Hound, where in reality Sandor Clegane is one single decent person in that nest of vipers that Joffrey's Kingsguard is.
So I was making noises of "AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW" during the scene of the Hound saving Sansa from trying to grab Joffrey and committing murder/suicide (as much as I hate Joffrey, I do want Sansa alive). The part where The Hound gave her a hankie and his hands were SHAKING was fabulous. I don't know if I said it before, but I like Rory McCann, I like him a lot, especially his voice. What is definitely good in this show is the choice of actors.
Please help, I am curious about one small detail. This is something we discussed with
lydzi. Please check the screencap above. What does the Hound give to Sansa? A lace handkerchief or a rough piece of cloth? It looks like a dirty piece of cloth to me, which made me giggle a bit. I imagine this is not the last time we see this piece of cloth too. There is also a video where David Benioff talks about the Hound and Sansa (please see the video below, shamelessly stolen from
sunnytyler001). I am so impressed. He gets the relationship perfectly!! And speaking of what David says, the part where everybody always have looked away from The Hound's face? There was a moment where Sansa actually looked straight at the Hound, and this was lovely.Also - Joffrey looked rather shocked at Sandor's gesture. There is a passage in Cersei's POV chapters where she remembers how lonely Joffrey has always felt and how he was looking for a father figure, out of all people, in the Hound.
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There is something I noticed as well, just a little thing. Sansa took off Joffrey's locket, and put on her dragonfly necklace again, the one she brought from home. I have a necklace just like that one! (I got it at a craft fair last year):
PS: I have a question for book fans: What scene do you think should have been in the show, but wasn't included for some reason?
PS2: How badly do you wish a slow and painful death to Joffrey?
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Date: 2011-06-21 02:03 am (UTC)First off I agree, that was an AMAZING finale which leaves both the book and tv audience wanting more. I was so pleased with the Sansa/Sandor scene. I think a lot of fans were happy and relieved to finally see this relationship play out on screen. I believe it bodes well for next season. I would have enjoyed seeing the scene prior when Sansa is summoned to court wherein eventually she tells Ser Meryn that he is no ‘true knight’. Nonetheless I am just thankful for the battlements scene.
What scene should have been in the show? For purely selfish reasons I wish they would have covered more of Cat and Tyrion’s journey to the Eyrie. The description of the ascent is haunting in the novel. I believe it was cut because I doubt the budget would have covered for it. Maybe in future seasons if the series remains successful we will have the pleasure of seeing that breathtaking journey when another character makes it. I would have also loved to see some flashbacks to Lyanna but I suspect those will come in the future seasons.
How badly do you wish a slow and painful death to Joffrey? I honestly can’t believe I’m going to say this but I don’t. I feel sorry for him. He basically grew up without a father and he had Cersei to mentor him in the viper’s pit that is King’s Landing. It’s no wonder he turned out how he did. You may argue that Tommen and Myrcella are in the same boat yet they seem perfectly fine. However neither Tommen or Myrcella were being groomed to be king. Cersei and Joffrey’s relationship is similar to that of Agrippina and Nero. She did everything she could to get her son to power. She managed to secure the support of all the key power brokers in her court to pledge their loyalty to her son to ensure his success. And then, like the Roman Emperor who comes to power – absolute power – at such a young age, Joffrey constantly pushes his limits to see how far his power goes until, unfortunately, no one has the ability to stop or control him anymore. Don’t get me wrong, I still loathe Joffrey and I can’t imagine anyone actually liking him. I will savour the death of this despicable character yet I still have to feel a bit sad thinking how different he could have been if only his uncle had given him a few more appropriately timed slaps to knock some sense into that head.
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Date: 2011-06-21 10:17 am (UTC)I thought thatCat/Tyrion journey was too short too, tram-bam and they are in the Eyrie. It just seemd as if this was next door. :D
With Joffrey, I also think, as someone noted in one of the previous posts, thre is also a genetic problem. I think it playing with fire - having so many kids from your brother. This is not going to turn out well genetically. So, yes, I understand why his charcter is what he is (and it is nicely shown in the show, as you say, that Cersei was bringing him up in this way too) but I want him to DIE.