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Chuno episode 23: soon it is all going to end and I am still not getting the vibe of doom. Am I in the total minority and will my optimism be crushed soon? I don't know – but I guess I am an eternal optimist so I can't do anything about this.



This episode was a bit about slaves and it was revealed that Legolas is, in fact, working for the Evil Minister. Although the slave rebellion was never one of my favourite storylines, at least now everything is tied back to the main story, Eop Bok and Cho Bok had their kiss, etc. etc. I think the final episode will have less to do with the slaves (I hope) and more to do with Dae Gil and Tae Ha's last battle with Chul Woong and a whole army of his minimes.



But the slaves weren't the one and only thing, we had another episode of Tae Ha and Dae Gil fighting together, talking to each other and being generally awesome. There was also quite a long time devoted to Chul Woong's soul spiraling faster and faster into complete disintegration, with some moments incredibly hard to watch.

But! Let's forget that this is a Korean period drama and everyone might die tomorrow, forget the laws of fateful loves, noble deaths, reunions in heaven and all the other things that personally make little or no sense to me. There was so much awesomeness in this episode! Tae Ha's badassery reached a completely new level – not only is he very swift with his sword, it was also revealed that he is second to no-one with bow and arrow. The story goes like this: Dae Gil is accosted by numerous amounts of soldiers, fighting with them successfully. Tae Ha is standing on a roof, shooting arrows, and with every single arrow he hits his target (like Robin Hood, only better because Tae Ha is still purposefully not killing anyone) . Finally Dae Gil notices that he has no guys to fight anymore and gives Ta Ha that fabulous gesture that I can only translate "Awesome, dude!" (it is like a quick bow, I wasn't able to screencap it).











































And there also was a bit about Un Nyun being fantastic with Qing guys and teaching Sul Hwa to read

Date: 2010-03-24 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sirena-of-c.livejournal.com
oh i can't wait!

Date: 2010-03-24 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
Seriously - these two are so awesome together , I wish we had more episodes of their companionship.

Date: 2010-03-24 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I can't wait! TH looks so hot shooting.

I really wish the whole useless slave revolt storyline was ruthlessly chopped - it adds little, takes away from mains, and is horribly boring.

I keep hoping for all the slaves to be eaten by a manticore and that storyline to end.

Date: 2010-03-24 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
TH looks so hot shooting.

Isn't he just? How can they kill off someone like that? How? (but then , they had the IRIS's hero dead).

Honestly, I feel I am becoming absolutely baffled by the cultural differences - what is so wrong with you Korean drama entertainment that you produce endings like that (and I am not even talking about "knife in the back" that HGD was).?????????????????

But IRIS - even Nikita ends well!

Dae Gil was also very hot coming with all helpful suggestions and they talk a LOT to each other.

I really wish the whole useless slave revolt storyline was ruthlessly chopped - it adds little, takes away from mains, and is horribly boring.

More I think of it more it seems that the slave story is one of the writer's mains. It just hasn't clicked with anyone.
Edited Date: 2010-03-24 05:12 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-03-24 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I actually thought IRIS' ending fit perfectly thematically - you can't take on a huge secret organization and win. You just can't. It was pretty clear from the start it was only a question of when (basically, the main character was doomed the day his parents took the job - nothing he could have done since would have got him out of iris' clutches then - it all would have ended in death sooner or later).

But this isn't the case in Chuno - they can go to Qing just fine and the evil king is about to croak. They have a chance at happiness. I do think TH is going to die for sure and DG will live with UN (OJH interview really made me think about it).

More I think of it more it seems that the slave story is one of the writer's mains. It just hasn't clicked with anyone.

Yes - people like the main quartet, the other slave hunters (even CJH for reasons unknown :P), CW, even the comic bits with the Jumos. But nobody I've seen (soompi, LJ, dramabeans, real life) cares for the slave revolt story. It really must be the writer's pet project.

ETA: I am on ep 6 of Swallow the Sun and it's good. And I actually like Lee Wan's character now. He's pretty messed up but they explain why so I feel sorry for him now.
Edited Date: 2010-03-24 05:20 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-03-24 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
But this isn't the case in Chuno - they can go to Qing just fine and the evil king is about to croak. They have a chance at happiness. I do think TH is going to die for sure and DG will live with UN (OJH interview really made me think about it).

** weeps ** I think I just won't be able to take TH's dying. I am going to go and cry in a corner now. Why does he have to dieeeeeee? because DG/UN are the "fateful love"?

ETA: I am on ep 6 of Swallow the Sun and it's good. And I actually like Lee Wan's character now. He's pretty messed up but they explain why so I feel sorry for him now.

he still won't be the one to "get the girl". :(

Honestly, TH dies - I am through with Kdrama for a while, we don't agree on some base level :D
Edited Date: 2010-03-24 05:28 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-03-24 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Trust me, Lee wan doesn't deserve to get the girl in StS (but then I think you like him a lot more than I do. I have no idea why he doesn't get leading guys roles anymore btw).

If TH dies - I'll weep, rant on my LJ, and then go to another kdrama - clearly I am hopeless :)

Date: 2010-03-24 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
If TH dies - I'll weep, rant on my LJ, and then go to another kdrama - clearly I am hopeless :)

No, I will be really through. May be jdramas for a while, or may be just do more proper film watching. You see, the way I see it - I haven't seen another character (apart from the guy in IRIS and Dam Deok) that deserves happiness so much. Yes, Dg deserves it too, and in no way I want him to die, but still - DG stopped developing long long time ago. . If TH dies, that means that thing "Kdrama is all about fateful love" is true and the thing the writer was saying all along "it is all about making changes where you live" is wrong, and I would definitely think my own beliefs and "all is fate" don't agree on deep deep level down.

Lee Wan is not in my top 3, but may be in top 5-10, but the fact is that I am also not a fan of the main lead (purely on subjective level).
Edited Date: 2010-03-24 05:44 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-03-24 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I think if I survived Boys Over Flowers (the first half of which I adored and the second watched in growing amazement at the derailment and vain hope it will get better) and Powerful Opponents (don't even get me started!) and still continued with kdramas, I am set for life :P Seriously though, if the ending ends up not making sense I usually note to avoid that particular writer but I still continue in my kdrama-fiend ways. There have been some endings fandom hated that I liked just fine (Bali, HGD, Iris) so I am hopeful...

Re: Lee Wan. I've adored him in ToH but I think except that, Snow White and Beach he doesn't have lead roles? I have no idea why - he totally should! (Btw, did you know he is real-life brother of Kim Tae Hee, Iris' lead?)

I am also not a fan of the main lead (purely on subjective level).


See, here is where we differ. I got thiiiiiis close to watching New Heart for him and I never watch med dramas.

Date: 2010-03-24 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
I suppose if I ended up watching another Hong sister's drama after HGD, yes, may be, but at the same time - no drama has affected me so badly yet as Chuno (may be with the exception of ALTK but there I could see WHY is it coming) . I think for me the main thing here is "WHYYYYYYY?" Bali, Powerful Opponents , even HDG - I can understand WHY. Here, what purpose TH's death will serve other than removing an obstacle on the way of DG/UN - I don't understand.

Lee Wan has secondary role in "In Soon is pretty", but with his own OTP. Doesn't end weell for him, though (although this end is open to tiny little bit of interpretation) .

"New Heart" - i say it is much less about actual medical procedures than "Jejungwon", as far as I can remember it is all about "achieving your goal". The guy is lovely, real heart of gold - just the way you like them and the girl is very achievement-oriented. OTP is more of UST type, though.

Date: 2010-03-24 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] issy-chan.livejournal.com
can TH be anymore perfect and more awsome than this??? i want to say NO but i know tomorrow he is going to prove me wrong and be even more perfect.
i really don't know what PD and writers want to do with our poor heart by making him better and better in each ep and then maybe kill this perfect charcater.
i think i like an open ending now.
ps. how many times i used the word perfect? when i write about TH. it's the only word in my mind.
i have the ep i think i will watch it now. can't wait till night.

Date: 2010-03-24 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
Well, if he dies I will take it as a big cultural difference . :D

But he is still awesome. :D

Date: 2010-03-24 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] issy-chan.livejournal.com
YESS, same here.
ps. like your icon btw. mei-chan was my guilty pleasure watch. not even embarrassed to say that i liked it alot hehehr

Date: 2010-03-24 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
Mei-chan was such a pleasure - a bit OTT at times but thoroughly enjoyable.

Date: 2010-03-24 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timescout.livejournal.com
Aren't those two beyond awesome!? XD

I'm pretty lukewarm to TH/UN or DG/UN but... TH/DG... LOL! Clearly I'm a closet slasher.

You know, I'm having this novel idea that they are all going to survive! Now that would be a shock of epic propositions. Maybe they just kill CW and EB with the Evil Minister and his minions to keep the bodycount. I mean, someone's got to die, it's a sageuk. ;P

Date: 2010-03-24 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
LOL! Clearly I'm a closet slasher.

me too - all that winking and bowing to each other - they are clearly meant to be together.

You know, I'm having this novel idea that they are all going to survive! Now that would be a shock of epic propositions. Maybe they just kill CW and EB with the Evil Minister and his minions to keep the bodycount. I mean, someone's got to die, it's a sageuk. ;P

Hee! I keep telling exactly the same thing to myself and soompi forums, but they keep bringing spoilers full of doom from different sources - but I am still hanging to my gut feel. In any logical world, this how it would have ended.

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