"Rome" episode 6 "Philippi"

[alexandral]

Notes on "Rome" episode 6 "Philippi". I liked it very much because I do like "Rome" and it can't do anything wrong for me at the moment, but I had some uneasy and confused feelings about involvement of Pullo and Vorenus into the murder of Cicero and other murders. Historical inaccuracies don’t matter much for me, and even the fact that Vorenus and Pullo are the weapons of the execution of hundreds of innocent citizens do not worry me that much too. This is their job. Though I was expecting Pullo to disagree with the assignment to murder Cicero, especially in the bit where he was nailing Cicero’s hands to the door.

The main thing I am not sure about is the “peaches” scene when Pullo murders Cicero. I don’t know, but Pullo seemed to look quite uncaring what Cicero’s feelings were at that moment and hesitating unnecessarily. And what worries me even more that asking to pick the peaches for his wife from the guy whom you are about to murder is somehow a silly (and quite a cruel) thing to do. And I do not like to see Pullo cruel or silly. ;(

I liked Cicero in this scene, though. He was full of dignity. I thought that may be Cicero's death is in parallel with the death of Brutus in Philippi and the "Philippi" in the title refers to the both of them. A cruel death as an acceptance of their fate.



But a very good thing is that Pullo is totally impervious to Gaia’s charms and sees her through!! I knew this!!!!!!!!!YAY!!! And I have made my mind about Gaia – I DO NOT LIKE HER! She is very bad news and a great stirrer of trouble. And she is trying to cause trouble between everyone.



Even the latest rift between Vorenus and his daughter about the make-up is all Gaia’s doing. Though Vorenus keeps being clueless in how to behave himself with his daughter, smack his head!!!! And the older Vorena’s suitor seems to be very very creepy. And obviously he is working for Memmio.

But I still believe that the differences between Vorenus and his daughter will be resolved, and it was so wonderful to see the younger kids happy at the countryside picnic. And the way Vorenus goes around carrying little Lucius and being very protective of him is so heart-warming! And how little Lucius carries the elephant that Vorenus mended everywhere around with him!

The picnic:




And how sad it was to hear Pullo saying that he doesn’t know where his is coming or going and that the only thing he knows and likes is violence. Very poignant scene, very difficult one because at the same time it is a scene where we see Vorenus and Pullo talking to each other, being that great unit of friends. And among all this, if I understood Pullo correctly, he wants to go and do his own thing. He is not satisfied with being “the second man in Aventive” anymore. I absolutely don’t blame him, but this doesn't mean that I am happy that the boys will go their separate ways.

As a side point, I am not sure what to think about Vorenus’ attempt to make the collegia an honest place. How will it all go? With the enemies like Memmio? From the blood money?

But all this said, it is fabulous to see Pullo and Vorenus together and Vorenus “full of purpose” as Pullo said:








Two picspams of the day

Agrippa and Octavia My little shippy heart is so happy!! This is where I use up my daily allowance of exclamation marks! And I am so warmed up to Maecenas too because though he knows everything about Agrippa and Octavia, he is not saying anything to Octavian. But Agrippa!!! Agrippa is definitely my favourite historucal figure. His gandfather was a slave (is this true?) and his name is written upon the Pantheone for the many generations to see. And I don't want to think about the consequences of Agrippa's and Octavia's love, at all.






































Brutus breaks Alexandra’s heart. It is not a spoiler as this episode is named Philippi I guess











EEE! I have blurted this all out! Now I can go and read everyone's posts! And also I should go home and catch up on some sleep!!

Comments

[baleanoptera.livejournal.com]

This is so much Octavia’s “the love of her life”

I know! And I was struck by how easily they talked together in "the hotel" (what do you call it? Lodging?). The way they sounded like they had known each other forever. And they have the same sense of humour! (which I always find very endearing. Hee)

But you are probably right in that it will fall apart soon. *sob* I just wish they could be happy for at least another episode!

And I have rewatched the scene by the fountain too many times. ;D

Re: Brutus's death. Yes, the way he died - and the way he let himself be killed was so well done. I was left with the feeling that he never truly got over killing the man he viewed as a father, and that this final action was Brutus's way of both trying to atone and remembering that.

And to go from that to the closing shot of some thief cutting of his finger to get the ring. Ouch! That was so very, very touching and well done.
(Now if they had managed that with the Pullo & Cicero scene it would have been one hard hitting episode)

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

I know! And I was struck by how easily they talked together in "the hotel" (what do you call it? Lodging?). The way they sounded like they had known each other forever. And they have the same sense of humour! (which I always find very endearing. Hee)

I think though Octavia loved her first husband, she was still very young and that relationship didn’t seem to be as deep. She has already suffered so much and meeting a person whom she loves and who loves her in return is so wonderful

But you are probably right in that it will fall apart soon. *sob* I just wish they could be happy for at least another episode!

As you said, I am very interested to see what Octavian says about this, or if Atia just tries to marry Octavia to Mark Antony in underhand sort of way, blackmailing her. I also try to figure who will be the one to give up their relationship first, Octavia or Agrippa. And ** shakes her fist ** if this will be Agrippa I will never forgive him. ;(

Re: Brutus's death. Yes, the way he died - and the way he let himself be killed was so well done. I was left with the feeling that he never truly got over killing the man he viewed as a father, and that this final action was Brutus's way of both trying to atone and remembering that.

I thought too, it was like he was always trying to justify his doing by saying that they are the heroes of the Republic. People who think they are right usually just get on with it, like Cicero did. But the good thing is, I will never think of Brutus in the same way I did before!

And to go from that to the closing shot of some thief cutting of his finger to get the ring. Ouch! That was so very, very touching and well done.

Oh, you reminded me of that scene. It was fantastic and very sad.

(Now if they had managed that with the Pullo & Cicero scene it would have been one hard hitting episode)

Actually there was so many possibilities, they just overdone it with peaches. (Some more ranting – in a way of parallel it is almost like Pullo appears to be like that thief)

[baleanoptera.livejournal.com]

if Atia just tries to marry Octavia to Mark Antony in underhand sort of way, blackmailing her.

I think Atia herself expects to marry Marc Antony. remember their conversation this episode where he says it will be good to see her more, and she automatically thinks he is talking about marriage. My feeling is that Atia is very much, and in her own way, deeply in love with Marc Antony - and so I doubt that she will let him marry her daughter.
Therefore I suspect the marriage between Marc Antony and Octavia will be orchestrated either by Octavian - based on political reasons and/or to get his sister away from Agrippa. Or it will be arranged by Marc Antony who can use it as a bargaining chip against Octavian.
But this is just me wildly speculating of course. ;)

And ** shakes her fist ** if this will be Agrippa I will never forgive him. ;(

*g* I know what you mean. After all he started this whole thing! hee. But he was just so sweet last episode when he talked about how he knew they could never be married, and how he came from a family of nobodies and so forth. And Octavia was hanging on to every word, and not really caring a bit. ;D

Some more ranting – in a way of parallel it is almost like Pullo appears to be like that thief)

I hadn't thought of that but ouch! yes, I can see how that could be a parallel. That said I don't think Pullo saw it that way. The more I think of it the more Pullo appeared happy to be doing something -anything! I don't think he feels comfortable being "second man" - he needs purpose and orders.
Hopefully he will get that with Eirene and the baby - but I fear that might end badly. *fears for Eirene*

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

Hopefully he will get that with Eirene and the baby - but I fear that might end badly. *fears for Eirene*

Oh, I usually think of things optimistically, but I think Eirene is definitely going to die (I am even trying not to look at spoilers because I am so afraid). I think they will go for a very bad fate for her, as a parallel with Niobe so at the end there will be only Pullo and Vorenus again.

I don't think he feels comfortable being "second man" - he needs purpose and orders.

This made me a little sad too, I wish that he realizes that he can be independent from ANYONE!! (And I don't mean that Vorenua and him will not be friends, just that they will be equals). But I am all hope, I hope this is just a blip!

I have seen a spoilery (but not very understandable) preview for the next episode, though. All I can do is to think how it all will play out.

If you want to check it, it is here (one of my LJ friends recced it to me) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZYB9TCRq-k

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

Must warn you more - Very spoilery!

[baleanoptera.livejournal.com]

very spoilery! But interesting - but meep! did you see who Antony was marrying?

And might I just say that Servillia look scary!

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

I could not figure this out. It wasn't her saying "I am so happy I am going to marry Antony", right?

And Pullo! Just when I thought he is safe!! Curse the awful woman!

[baleanoptera.livejournal.com]

Well - I think it was Atia saying it, but the woman on in the wedding scene had lighter hair - like Octavia has. Meep!
And possibly sob!


And yes - The Pullo and Gaia scene? grr... I don't like her at all!

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

Well - I think it was Atia saying it, but the woman on in the wedding scene had lighter hair - like Octavia has. Meep!And possibly sob!

Indeed! I would think it is some kind of trickery on Octavian's part. I am full with dread, though because I knew from the very beginning that Octavia and Agrippa are not going to marry, I think I can do with stolen glance, secret meetings and forbidden love. :D