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alexandralHee, may be am quite late with this , but I could not resist:
LJ appeared to go ahead with a new "very helpful" feature of being able to re-post your comments (in any entry, it appears, locked or not) to Facebook and Twitter.
1. I haven't tested this myself, so I am not 100% sure if the re-posting comments from locked entries work. I have seen posts from people who tried to do so and succeeded , but I am not 100% sure. I am sorry - as a part of my job I do a little bit of computer systems support and my initial reaction to anything is always to double-check it. But let's assume that this works.
2. I don't see any immediate huge difference between ability of anyone who has malicious intent and has access to my locked entries to copy-and-paste and ability to re-post on Facebook/Twitter.
3. The only difference is that this can happen accidentally. Which is hugely possible with the "automatically re-post" checkbox being clicked. Which is a problem indeed.
4. This is just me, everyone is different: I am hugely paranoid and the thought of posting something on the Internet that I can’t openly express in RL makes me very very uncomfortable , regardless private or locked status of the post. I personally never do this - whatever you see in my LJ is what I also talk about with my family and friends and work colleagues. These are databases! They can be broken into by evil Russian programmers! They can be sold to evil advertising agencies! Even if the management now is good, the management can be bad tomorrow and – NOTHING ever gets deleted or removed from databases! For this they have archives!
I lock my personal posts as a first-line prevention measure against idiots, but I have no illusions : I am quite positive that nothing will work against really determined individuals.
4. This is my opinion and my only and I do not think it is universally right or anything, but I just have it:
I do not like some things about Dreamwidth. I do not like the way every time anything happens on LJ there are big posts on Dreamwidth from Dreamwidth’s management/creators of "look how bad LJ is!!!!!!!". I don’t like this attitude and I haven’t seen this happening much on LJ.
In short: LJ, please remove this stupid feature because it can cause accidental damage. But I am not moving and I am thinking about deleting my DW account.
LJ appeared to go ahead with a new "very helpful" feature of being able to re-post your comments (in any entry, it appears, locked or not) to Facebook and Twitter.
1. I haven't tested this myself, so I am not 100% sure if the re-posting comments from locked entries work. I have seen posts from people who tried to do so and succeeded , but I am not 100% sure. I am sorry - as a part of my job I do a little bit of computer systems support and my initial reaction to anything is always to double-check it. But let's assume that this works.
2. I don't see any immediate huge difference between ability of anyone who has malicious intent and has access to my locked entries to copy-and-paste and ability to re-post on Facebook/Twitter.
3. The only difference is that this can happen accidentally. Which is hugely possible with the "automatically re-post" checkbox being clicked. Which is a problem indeed.
4. This is just me, everyone is different: I am hugely paranoid and the thought of posting something on the Internet that I can’t openly express in RL makes me very very uncomfortable , regardless private or locked status of the post. I personally never do this - whatever you see in my LJ is what I also talk about with my family and friends and work colleagues. These are databases! They can be broken into by evil Russian programmers! They can be sold to evil advertising agencies! Even if the management now is good, the management can be bad tomorrow and – NOTHING ever gets deleted or removed from databases! For this they have archives!
I lock my personal posts as a first-line prevention measure against idiots, but I have no illusions : I am quite positive that nothing will work against really determined individuals.
4. This is my opinion and my only and I do not think it is universally right or anything, but I just have it:
I do not like some things about Dreamwidth. I do not like the way every time anything happens on LJ there are big posts on Dreamwidth from Dreamwidth’s management/creators of "look how bad LJ is!!!!!!!". I don’t like this attitude and I haven’t seen this happening much on LJ.
In short: LJ, please remove this stupid feature because it can cause accidental damage. But I am not moving and I am thinking about deleting my DW account.
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Date: 2010-09-08 08:49 am (UTC)Oh! I hadn't read about that. Those two things are close to the worst thing I have read about this issue so far (the automatic setting and as a result of that, if you add the code, since the boxes are hidden, you can't uncheck them).
How did you found out about the automatic setting? I can see under "My account settings --> Extensions" boxes for Facebook and Twitter for default cross-posting of comments+entries. Are they automatically on when you enter your FB+Twitter IDs?
And just to explain, I'm just curious. I don't even use FB+Twitter. :)
Edit: I just read the original LJ-news post again. So apologies that I bothered you about this.
It actually explains if and when the cross-posting occurs (assuming for a moment that things are actually work as they say).
So it seems that not all comments are automatically cross-posted. Though just the fact that you can pre-select this heightens the risk that something goes wrong considerably.
And the code to hide the boxes is still counter-productive.
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Date: 2010-09-08 11:58 am (UTC)I still haven't ordered your parcel. But I solemnly promise to do so this week. :(
How did you found out about the automatic setting? I can see under "My account settings --> Extensions" boxes for Facebook and Twitter for default cross-posting of comments+entries. Are they automatically on when you enter your FB+Twitter IDs?
There is settings link there as well and the "check" state is a default , but I assume you have found out this already. I also agree- this is the worst thing about the feature. If it was just a re-post that you must select every time you want to do it - I don't see a problem. But with the default this creates a scope for things going wrong.
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Date: 2010-09-08 07:54 pm (UTC)I saw the default boxes, but I didn't know if you have to check them manually or if they are checked by default the moment you connect with FB. I think the original news post cleared it up, and, as I read in your most recent post, you thankfully did some testing yourself.
I'm usually very similar as you as I think other services have problems too, and it's foolish to expect that LJ as a company doesn't want to try to profit from their users. Though in this case I think they did a very stupid thing by betraying the trust of their users by allowing to cross-post things from locked posts. I find it especially stupid since I think the locking and filtering is a main feature of LJ. In my view they should try to stress this in order to distinguish themselves from the data monsters like FB or Google since I have a feeling that more people start to realize how evil those are.