Chuno episode 19

[alexandral]

Episode 19 was amazing, many fabulous fighting scenes and many emotional scenes too.


My favourite, by far was the scene where Tae Ha asks Un Nyun to stay and tells her that he wants to change the world. All three leads did an amazing job here. I especially applaud Oh Ji Ho – every emotion was conveyed with such a force. So far I thought that out of the two leads Jang Hyuk is a much stronger actor, but in this episode Oh Ji Ho has really excelled too.

The scene that made Alexandra Leaving cry as a baby: I don't understand too much of what is said and mostly rely on translation by hjkomo (thank you so much!), but really, the trio of leads do such a great job here that you can understand everything without words.

Un Nyun to Tae Ha: I am going to leave you



Little Prince: "Oh no, my surrogate mummy! Don't leave me!"



Tae Ha, left alone with his pride. Now he realises that he can't live without UN:




Un Nyun: "Young master, are you the same man that I loved?"




Dae Gil: No , I am not



Good bye



Dae Gil: But I still worship the ground you walk on:



Tae Ha, remember all the things you said and promised to her?




You love her more than anything:




Go and stop her:




And tell her to stay:



Un Nyun: hopes



Tae Ha, tell her that you'll change the world:




Un Nyun is torn, she is very much aware that Dae Gil is listening



Tae Ha, tell her you love her:





Dae Gil is very very sad and wishes he was Tae Ha:



Tae Ha, tell her some more good things:



Dae Gil can't stand it anymore and leaves.



Un Nyun: hopes



Tae Ha: hopes



There also was an awesome scene in the preview:

The Big Mountain Boss and Dae Gil start a fight:




Tae Ha steps in:



The Big Mountain Boss assesses Tae Ha's sword:




This is one big sword you have there!!!



PS: A call for the fans of Chuno: please take a minute of your time to vote in a purely scientific Chuno poll , hosted by dangermousie, here:
http://dangermousie.livejournal.com/1829632.html

Comments

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

One word: AWWWWW.

I am afraid I am firmly on UN/TH ship by now - I was flipflopping but there it is.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

NOOOOOO! but look how sad DG is! And to be fair, he was extremely sensitive in that scene - he left them to talk it through.

One point got heavily highlighted , though, that DG as he is now is not at all compatible with UN as she is now. ** sad**

My only quibble is that when it looked as if UN is leaving, I wish DG said something about her brother. She was going to her brother's and the fact that the brother isn't already alive is extremely important. But may be DG would have followed her (secretly), most likely.

I also like how both TH and UN genuinely love the Little Prince. And how TH always holds him gently and lovingly. AWWWWWWW!

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

He is sad and I like him as a character but I agree with you - he and UN are very not compatible any more. If they ever were together for a length of time, it would come out and they couldn't live with each other, I think.

Plus, I prefer TH in general - he is a noble person and a heroic one, and DG is neither. I always go for 'good boys.'

I really do love that she loves them both though. For DG, her love is mixed with guilt and grief and is all too complicated by memory (she loves the old image not the new man). For TH - it's complicated by the shadows of young!DG in him and her marital sense of duty. I really don't think she loves one more than the other.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

He is sad and I like him as a character but I agree with you - he and UN are very not compatible any more. If they ever were together for a length of time, it would come out and they couldn't live with each other, I think.

But then again, he can change? Back to the man he used to be? He clearly loves her so much!

As the character, I prefer TH too. The man able to see further than class distinction - my favourite thing ever. I know DG is the same, but in a way for TH it is a much bigger deal, he was the Prince's BFF, someone who is upper class of upper class, so to speak. Also sadly, ,DG's wish to change the world wasn't able to survive the adversities.

As OTP , I waver. I used to prefer DG/UN strongly because we weren't shown prior to this episode how much TH loves and needs UN. But the way he was heart-broken in the ep.19 - gosh, it was hot. Now I am torn. I vote in your poll DG/UN but then changed my mind. :D

Yes, I love that she loves both of them , and in this case it is so realistic - it would have been really odd if she didn't fall for TH when she thought DG was dead. Those life-long obsessions over dead people - I don't really believe in them, everyone moves on. But when DG re-appeared, it is only realistic that the old feelings flooded back.

On the side note, kuddos to the creators - they really balanced the two characters nicely . I will be not surprised if the fan's preferences between DG and TH separate almost equally.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

But then again, he can change? Back to the man he used to be? He clearly loves her so much!


I think he can change but only to an extent - he cannot revert to his sweet idealistic self of a decade ago - he can't negate his experiences. I can see him being able to fight for a good cause out of personal loyalty but I don't see him becoming an idealist again, not really. He's seen and done too much.

But the way he was heart-broken in the ep.19 - gosh, it was hot.

If you think about it, it makes sense. Even DG had more of a personal life (with Choi and Wangson) than TH did in the last decade. Without UN he has no one.

Those life-long obsessions over dead people - I don't really believe in them, everyone moves on

Tbh, I think she would have moved on much much sooner even than 10 yrs if it wasn't for the fact that she lived a properly isolated life as an upperclass woman and it was comfortable and safe to dwell in the past so she never allowed herself to be jolted out of it. If she was out in the world meeting all sorts of people - who knows, she could have moved on in 5 years instead of 10.

I will be not surprised if the fan's preferences between DG and TH separate almost equally.


This worries me. The last drama that did that was Damo and we all know how it ended.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

I can see him being able to fight for a good cause out of personal loyalty but I don't see him becoming an idealist again, not really. He's seen and done too much.

He can at least revert to talking and eating properly. I have seen some "Oh! Horror!" glances from UN in the ep.19 (not as if I blame her :D).

Tbh, I think she would have moved on much much sooner even than 10 yrs if it wasn't for the fact that she lived a properly isolated life as an upperclass woman and it was comfortable and safe to dwell in the past so she never allowed herself to be jolted out of it. If she was out in the world meeting all sorts of people - who knows, she could have moved on in 5 years instead of 10.

yes. But it makes sense that DG is so hung up on her. In a way, she represents his past life and she ALSO represents the fact that he lost everything.

The best indication, I think, is CitC ending. SOmeone has to die and someone has to live. I am almost 90% sure UN will survive, for the sake of the Little prince and also for the sake of TH's baby (she is bound to have a baby. I don't remember a single drama where we were actually shown that people sleep together and there were no baby).

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

don't remember a single drama where we were actually shown that people sleep together and there were no baby

Robbers, Iris, Swallow the Sun, All In, City Hall, Worlds Within, Que Sera Sera (lack of baby with Eric, I mean). So you never know.

"Oh! Horror!" glances from UN in the ep.19

ROFL.

But yes, in DG's case it makes every sense - he has nothing else, he has lost everything and she is the only thing (he believes) he can recover.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

hee! I mean period dramas, of course, before they had the means. :D

"Oh! Horror!" glances from UN in the ep.19
ROFL.

Like here , upon listening to a conversation between DG and the Big Mountain Boss, they must have been talking some silly stuff: (the Little Price disapproves too :D):



And yes, I imagine he smells too. :D

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

LOLOLOL.

I bet TH smells too though - he did just get out of torture chamber/prison :)

UN must like rough guys :)

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

I bet TH smells too though - he did just get out of torture chamber/prison :)

I bet not as much. He would have had a chance to wash at the Qing's general place. Ancient China used to be very advanced. :D

UN must like rough guys :)

She definitely like good fighters. :D

[issy-chan.livejournal.com]

OMG, THANKS for your caps. i just got back home back home from work and straight to dl. those moments between TH and UN seems to be veru emotional. specially with tears in both of their eyes. just love when TH holds te little prince. as he said before, he see him as his lost son and acts so fatherly towards him.
Now TH really have a strong reason to change the world. before his mission was based on his loyality to people who served as general but now is out of love because he wants the world a better place for a person he loves the most.
here my fears about his death starts. i can see that he'll go all the way to make sure the world is changed and there are no slaves and because he is doing it out of his love for UN, he would not rest until it happens even if ends with his death.
i also feel DG pain so much too. god, these two charcaters are killing me. i really need to see this as soon as poccible.
thanks again for your caps.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

You must vote in dangermousie's Chuno poll: http://dangermousie.livejournal.com/1829632.html (your favourite character, etc. ) :D, for scientific purposes. :D

here my fears about his death starts. i can see that he'll go all the way to make sure the world is changed and there are no slaves and because he is doing it out of his love for UN, he would not rest until it happens even if ends with his death.
i also feel DG pain so much too. god, these two charcaters are killing me. i really need to see this as soon as poccible.
thanks again for your caps.

I know! I half want/half fear that TH will end up leading the slave rebellion.

But on the other hand, I have a tiny hope. He is such a good person that there isn't any need for him to die, right? For example, DG is broken inside and I can't really see how he can be fixed, but Th is someone who can lead a long and happy life with his family????

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

You must vote in dangermousie's Chuno poll: http://dangermousie.livejournal.com/1829632.html (your favourite character, etc. ) :D, for scientific purposes. :D

Yes, do! It's all very scientific. You are a Tae Ha lover and I want Tae Ha to win :P

[issy-chan.livejournal.com]

done. *___________________*

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yay!

Btw, long time no speak but glad to see you still have impeccable taste in men. Tae Ha FTW!

[issy-chan.livejournal.com]

heheheh, i know. looooooooooooong time no see. i fell out of your friend list when i was editing my friend list. computer crashed and did not notice. but i still read your posts you know. specially the ones about Chuno. after all, you are resposnsible for getting me into kdramas.

as for Tae Ha, even though i really like DG and i think he is SOOO HOOOT and damn goodlooking but there is something about TH gentle side that always drawn me to him. he is a good guy. a perfect super good guy that happens to be SUPER HOT too.;-)

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Hi!

*waves back*

I am going to add you again then :) I wasn't sure if you unfriended me on purpose or not so I didn't want to be a creepy stalker and removed you too. I am adding you back :)

[issy-chan.livejournal.com]

Thanks, i lost other friends in that dark blackout day and as i could not remember their names, i just let go. but i found you her on alexandra's lj (and was reading your post still) but was histant to add you again as you removed me from your list. hehehe
well, we meet again here. all thanks to Alexandra
ps. have been following your posts on soompi too. you and alexandral always make me smile. TH needs all the LOVE he can get.

[robotmatsuri.livejournal.com]

The scene where HW and TH were talking outside kinda killed me, partly because she was saying goodbye and partly because DG heard about how she was reborn as HW. It is bittersweet that she is not UN anymore, because being 'reborn' as HW released her from slavery, which he wanted for her anyway. *sigh* Oh DG. :(

I hope the boys and SH are reunited tomorrow. I will cry happy, happy tears.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

The scene where HW and TH were talking outside kinda killed me, partly because she was saying goodbye and partly because DG heard about how she was reborn as HW. It is bittersweet that she is not UN anymore, because being 'reborn' as HW released her from slavery, which he wanted for her anyway. *sigh* Oh DG. :(

yes, he wrote her name in the dust, didn't he ? (I think I am even beginning to understand bits of Korean). And yes, he wants to be so good and doesn't want to stay between her and her husband and everything is so saaaaaaaaad!