ASOS and Bollywood love
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alexandralOk, I can’t stay away from LJ any longer, Sasha has gone to her friend’s house for a day, I can’t work because I need a remote connection to my work computer and I can’t get it as my job-share-partner is using computer right this minute.
Not many things are happening recently except for my newly re-discovered love for Bollywood movies which started with unforgettable photo essay from![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
dangermousie. I watched “Elaan” and “Hollywood/Bollywood” and wonder if anybody has a good Indian film to recommend. It seems Sasha loves Indian films too!!!
ASOIF I am reading slowly and enjoying "A Storm of Swords"
Jaime Loosing his hand! And he, who is “alive when fighting” **sobs**. But it must have been as atonement for him for the Bran . **sigh**. Bath scene – it is just one of these scenes I can read 1000 times, so HEARTBREAKING!
Brienne How clever it was to throw stone on the Tully’s boat. Yay Brienne! She is so unbelievably great!
Catelyn and Robb Here comes THE RANT – I know Jaime had to be released and HAD to be travelling with Brienne (this is such a GREAT storyline for me), BUT - releasing him is a beyond silly thing to do in the war. Jaime was Robb’s greatest asset. And Robb marrying some Jayne and forgetting his promises to Freys is a suicide. Plus it seems to me that Jayne and her family were serving Lord’s Tuwin’s purposes and he orchestrated it all.
Cersei Hurting poor baby Tyrion! EVIL woman!
Sandor He does have a destiny, Beric’s sword was broken for a reason and this must signify that the God of Light has a purpose for The Hound. I have read ahead where Arya left him for dead, but of course Sandor will not be dead, but **shrugs** is he going to be as Beric, as zombie **shrugs again**?
Stannis and Melisandre I really feel quite revolted by the two of them, but the power of Melisandre’s magic is amazing, and she wants to fight the Others. She is the only person in the whole kingdom is worried about The Others. Also I find it interesting that Stannis and Melisandre are behind the Catelyn’s and Robb’s murder, and Joffrey’s murder and behind everything, it seems, where everybody else thinks Stannis is good for nothing ..
Prophecies of the dwarf woman I am blown away by them:
-Who is a man without face standing on a bridge with the one-eyed crow on his shoulder?
- Catelyn is going to get back to life? **shrughs**
-Why dwarf woman saw Arya as cruel heart?
Sword of the Morning and Ashara Dayne O, I find them so fascinating! Sword of the Morning is totally romantic name and I am in love with him already. And it is SO interesting that Ned seems to have some relationship with his sister Ashara, and may be Jon is Ned’s son after all?
Not many things are happening recently except for my newly re-discovered love for Bollywood movies which started with unforgettable photo essay from
dangermousie. I watched “Elaan” and “Hollywood/Bollywood” and wonder if anybody has a good Indian film to recommend. It seems Sasha loves Indian films too!!!ASOIF I am reading slowly and enjoying "A Storm of Swords"
Jaime Loosing his hand! And he, who is “alive when fighting” **sobs**. But it must have been as atonement for him for the Bran . **sigh**. Bath scene – it is just one of these scenes I can read 1000 times, so HEARTBREAKING!
Brienne How clever it was to throw stone on the Tully’s boat. Yay Brienne! She is so unbelievably great!
Catelyn and Robb Here comes THE RANT – I know Jaime had to be released and HAD to be travelling with Brienne (this is such a GREAT storyline for me), BUT - releasing him is a beyond silly thing to do in the war. Jaime was Robb’s greatest asset. And Robb marrying some Jayne and forgetting his promises to Freys is a suicide. Plus it seems to me that Jayne and her family were serving Lord’s Tuwin’s purposes and he orchestrated it all.
Cersei Hurting poor baby Tyrion! EVIL woman!
Sandor He does have a destiny, Beric’s sword was broken for a reason and this must signify that the God of Light has a purpose for The Hound. I have read ahead where Arya left him for dead, but of course Sandor will not be dead, but **shrugs** is he going to be as Beric, as zombie **shrugs again**?
Stannis and Melisandre I really feel quite revolted by the two of them, but the power of Melisandre’s magic is amazing, and she wants to fight the Others. She is the only person in the whole kingdom is worried about The Others. Also I find it interesting that Stannis and Melisandre are behind the Catelyn’s and Robb’s murder, and Joffrey’s murder and behind everything, it seems, where everybody else thinks Stannis is good for nothing ..
Prophecies of the dwarf woman I am blown away by them:
-Who is a man without face standing on a bridge with the one-eyed crow on his shoulder?
- Catelyn is going to get back to life? **shrughs**
-Why dwarf woman saw Arya as cruel heart?
Sword of the Morning and Ashara Dayne O, I find them so fascinating! Sword of the Morning is totally romantic name and I am in love with him already. And it is SO interesting that Ned seems to have some relationship with his sister Ashara, and may be Jon is Ned’s son after all?
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Date: 2006-02-13 10:16 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-13 03:19 pm (UTC)And Hollywood/Bollywood was lovely!
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Date: 2006-02-13 02:33 pm (UTC)As for releasing Jaime, well, I think the thing is that Lord Karstark would have killed HIM had he still been in Riverrun - after all, Karstark murdered two completely innocent children (Kevan Lannister's son and Genna Frey's son) because he couldn't get to Jaime, do you think the fact that Jaime was chained hand and foot would have stopped him? And with Jaime dead, I think Sansa's head would have been sent to Catelyn in a box. And Catelyn's plan would have worked fine (no one knowing that Jaime ahd been released) had it not been for her damn fool brother.
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Date: 2006-02-13 03:39 pm (UTC)I admit Catelyn had some justifications in her mind for Jaime’s release, but she didn't look ahead and did it in the spurt of the moment. Why in the first place did she think Tyrion would be a Hand when she knew that Lord Tywin is in town?
And because it was very badly timed with her brother's actions (i see him as more of extreme case of short-sightedness which Catelyn was suffering for) and even more short-sightedness from Robb everything went terribly wrong.
I am feeling quite torn on the subject of Robb and Catelyn . I know they are GOOD people, but why would not they want to help themselves? Awwwww, I feel like a bad person because in this case my crazy mind applaudes Lord Tywin's deviousness and has "just pity" for Catelyn and Robb.AAWWW!
Speaking of Lord Tywin - there was that cruelest scene with Tyrion where he blames Tyrion for the death of his mother! How can somebody say something like that!
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Date: 2006-02-13 03:46 pm (UTC)It's only AFTER Robb executes Karstark's men that his followers go over to Bolton (and Bolton takes them over to Tywin and the Freys). There's no hint at all that Karstark cares about Tywin's revenge earlier on when he wants Jaime dead. So I disagree with you on this one :P
And again, Edmure is an idiot - first of all, he messed up Robb's battle plans and then he messed up Catelyn's hostage rescue plans!
And yes, Tywin's deviousness compels my unwilling admiration too :P
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Date: 2006-02-13 04:36 pm (UTC)I feel like a stubborn person who doesn't want to agree ;), i don't know why the whole issue about Jaime's release irks me, really , but it is just does , probably because so much trouble came to pass over it (I apologise for much heat over the issue). Though probably the main trouble came from Robb's marriage and her brother's folly..But everything combined - i think is an example of family's tendency not to think things through and act on impulse.
I do agree that Jaime was in danger, but i just can't see it that Karstrak in the "normal" situation , and not annoyed by Jaime's escape goes over the Robb's head and murders Jaime who is safely in the Riverrun .And as Robb has himself plans concerning the Jaime's exchange, he would not let Karstark kill him.
On the other hand, I didn't mean that Karstark knew about Red Wedding plans (sorry if this come this way), i just remembered what Lord Bolton was saying about some minor Lords who crossed Lord Tywin in the past, that nobody remembers their names and their houses are empty.. I think everybody was a little afraid of the Lord Tywin's wrath ;)
But I don't think Catelyn cared that Jaime was in danger, she was thinking that this is the way to rescue her girls. But THE WAR! Sending Jaime practically alone! Brienne is great, but still.. Lots of opportunities to be killed! HHHHMMMM. And situation was changing so quickly , why did she think Tyrion still would be The Hand? Her whole plan is very dodgy for me.. I think she realised it herself and felt sorry, i don't remember the place where she did it, but i think she did..
** Disclaimer - everything above is for discussion purposes only;)
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Date: 2006-02-13 04:41 pm (UTC)I don't think we know enough about Karstark one way or another, to be honest, to think he wouldn't have killed Jaime anyway. And the Red Wedding was going to happen regardless - Tywin's plans with Bolton had been set in place LONG before (seeing as he'd suborned the Westerlings to have Jeyne marry Robb WELL before Catelyn released Jaime - by Robb's foolish desire to save the lady's honor, he alienated the Freys and the Freys were key to Tywin's plans all along.) Remember that Tywin had ALREADY WRITTEN JAIME OFF AS DEAD - Tyrion recognizes this as early as the end of A Game of Thrones. The ONLY efforts made to free Jaime come from TYRION (the abortive escape attempt, the promise to release the Stark girls) NOT from Tywin (who already only says that he regrets that Ned Stark was executed because that's the only person HE, were he in that situation, would trade Jaime Lannister for.) So, I think Robb is doomed no matter what, and Catelyn's own death at the Red Wedding was not planned by Tywin OR Bolton, that was an accident. And as soon as Robb died at the Red Wedding, don't you think Jaime's head would have been on top of a spike on the walls of Riverrun? I just don't think Catelyn's effort really did anything except ensure that Karstark was completely alienated from Robb, which, I agree, was a bad thing. But in terms of Tywin's plans, it didn't really matter.
Of course Catelyn didn't care that Jaime was in danger; she just wanted to save her girls. But I totally do not blame her for that.
(And I am fine with disagreement in discussion, darling, you KNOW that ;))
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Date: 2006-02-13 04:59 pm (UTC)This what set me off as "Aww, ROBB, WHY ARE YOU PLAYING A PAWN IN SOMEBODY'S HAND?" He did have a chance, if not for loosing Freys and not for Edmund messing his battle plans. But then - Stannis would have taken the city? And could he live Robb alone? Or would Robb bend to Stannis (Purely hypothetical ;)
Of course Catelyn didn't care that Jaime was in danger; she just wanted to save her girls. But I totally do not blame her for that. I like her for that too, i just don't see it happening the way she was going about it. Cersei realised Sansa's value very well, and all the danger of the road ;) The only thing i think Catelyn was very acute to recognise is the strenght of Brienne's character, i am blown away that even after Jaime's return to King's Landing Brienne was looking for Sansa. WOW!
And I am fine with disagreement in discussion, darling, you KNOW that
SURE! I just mentioned it because i find it strange to discuss things without seeing person's face, i am always not sure what messages i give, when you speak face to face, there is a body language and there is a feedback, and on Internet you have to state explicitly ;)
As you see, the "Red Wedding" theme really gotten me in ASOS. And as i said before, i sort of grudgingly admire Lord Tywin. I am a little upset with his demise, could not Martin find a nice lady for him who will soften his heart? I am silly like this.. ;)
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Date: 2006-02-13 05:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-13 08:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-13 05:18 pm (UTC)Here is a link to my general post of recs to Bollywood newbies:
http://dangermousie.livejournal.com/143230.html
Also, here: http://dangermousie.livejournal.com/154628.html
If you like romantic, here is a link to my post about Top 10 most romantic Bollywood moments (1 per movie). Maybe the descriptions there will lead you to something you like. They are all quite good:
http://dangermousie.livejournal.com/290635.html
And here is a list of hot moments, in case you find that interesting:
http://dangermousie.livejournal.com/66077.html
As to good Aishwarya movies:
One of my all-time favorites is Devdas (2002). Here is a link to a post I did on it (don't read the comments, they are full of spoilers):
http://dangermousie.livejournal.com/80797.html
Parineeta was my favorite from last year:
http://dangermousie.livejournal.com/154326.html
And Chalte Chalte is totally fun:
http://dangermousie.livejournal.com/134485.html
And here is a list of good Shahrukh Khan movies, Bollywood's biggest star (he's also the lead in Devdas):
http://dangermousie.livejournal.com/77835.html
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Date: 2006-02-13 05:23 pm (UTC)Thank you again!
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Date: 2006-02-13 05:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-13 08:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-14 06:04 am (UTC)