Rome: Words of Marcus Tullius Cicero/My poor heart is in peices

[alexandral]

I'll try to be quick with this because I need to pick Sasha from school/do our Monday library trip in 20 minutes, but if I don't write things down my heart can burst. :D As balenoptera was saying, what did I do before the age of LJ?

I loved this episode, but my heart is in pieces for everyone. I never thought I would say this about Brutus (I remember thinking during the history classes "at least the man received his comeuppance") I feel such a pity for him, and in a way I understand why he did what he did. But ** shudders ** watching the beautiful and incredibly sad scene in which he tries to wash himself clean and knowing what the future generations are going to think about his acts, I WAS CRYING!!





- Vorenus gone of his rails completely. I don't like him any less for this, but his scenes were very painful to watch. But all props for Kevin MacKidd who did a great job.

- I was actually pleased (if the word pleased can be applied here) that the reason of split between Pullo and Vorenus wasn't anything to do with Aventine. The timing of Pullo's slip of tongue was very very bad, but the rest of the events are very believable for me. So much believable that it hurts.

- But of course being in the army again is going to help Vorenus a little, and then Pullo will find the children and then they are going to be together again


I must admit with shame that my knowledge of Roman history is very weak. Enjoying Rome so much makes me want to understand more about the history, Romean gods, etc. I apologise very much because I should be really finding some literature about this, but if you don't mind filling me in

- Was Agrippa ever in love with Octavia?

- Did Cicero write that fabulous speech in reality? It absolutely has made my day. Roman cenate as presented in this show reminds me of some controversial days in Russian Duma (Senate) where they had a brawl once.


Alexandra's picture of the day: Titus Pullo on a horse speeding ahead to the rescue of his brother's children:





PS: I have to run!!!!!!!!!!! I hope my grammar is only as bad as usual. :D

Comments

[queenofthorns.livejournal.com]

Was Agrippa ever in love with Octavia?

I can’t speak to anyone’s emotional state, but IRL, Agrippa married Octavia’s daughter by Marcellus (who was replaced for the show by Glabius, but who was in fact, alive and well during the events depicted now. He and Octavia had several children as well.) So they have played fast-and-loose with history here.

Did Cicero write that fabulous speech in reality?

Cicero wrote something very similar to that (the Second Phillippic – I linked to it in my post on the episode) and indeed delivered (or wrote, anyway) multiple orations against Marc Antony. (IRL, also, he didn’t run away – his friend persuaded him NOT to appear to deliver the speech in person because they were sure Marc Antony would react as he did on the show!)

They’re called the Philippics because they were modeled on Demosthenes’ speeches against Philip of Macedon, by the way.

I was very angry with Vorenus for being so horrible to Pullo – but I think he knows how horrible he was. And yay for the picture!

[teh-haley.livejournal.com]

queenofthorns has already answered to your questions, so I don't need to ;)
at the High School I studied Latin for 5 years and I red so many things that Cicero wrote (in Latin) and even thoug it's not that easy to understand, it's very interesting and I think that if you find some good translation, they're worth to read!

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Completely OT but what happened to the lovely Goong icon? I planned to steal it but it was gone :(

[elspethsheir.livejournal.com]

I found myself in deep sympathy with Brutus. If you'd told me that last season, I'd be all "Pffft".

knowing what the future generations are going to think about his acts

Good thing we have Rome, then, to balance that out!

I see that QoT has already answered your questions, so I'll just say - Yay for Rome picspams!

[baleanoptera.livejournal.com]

Yay for Pullo riding to the rescue of the children! After all these dark and angsty episodes, it was good to end it with some hope!

I loved this episode, but my heart is in pieces for everyone.

Oh yes - I feel very much the same way. Strangely enough I even felt so sad for Atia. She can be incredibly annoying, but the scene where she sat on the bed or when she was crying and drinking in the bath - it was as if all life was drained from her. She might say her son is dead and that she has no son, but I feel the loss of Octavian is breaking her. No matter how horrid Atia can be there was never any doubt that she loved her children.

I felt there was a certain parallel between her and Vorenus in that they both deny the people close to them (a son or a brother), and that decision is destroying them.

And the scene with Vorenus crying on the floor just about killed me. I felt truly sorry for Pullo yes, but my heart broke for Vorenus. This is the man who was always so proper and well presented, so in control - and now he is sobbing uncontrollably on the floor. It was simply heart wrenching.

All in all Rome delivered again. :) (and indeed yay for LJ to discuss it! )

[jenandhughlove.livejournal.com]

Please, could you upload this episode for me. I've requested already, but i didn't receive answer. Help! Thank you in advance. :)

[nutmeg3.livejournal.com]

Everyone's already said everything about this episode, which is a good thing, because pretty much the only thing I'm capable of saying at this point is how it broke my heart to see Lucius sobbing on the ground. I felt absolutely gutted by this episode.

[jenandhughlove.livejournal.com]

Just a couple of comments about this episode:

1. It was a little bit boring (little bit, maybe because Atia wasn't the same without Octavian).
2. My God, i always liked Brutus but in this episode (especially the scene in the water, he was hot! :). I have a question: but Why Brutus was in Persia? (maybe i don't understand much because my english, but i think it was still with Servilia in Rome).
3. The scene where Mark Antony and Cicero talked in his house and the way Antony likes his plants...priceless!
I love this character!
4. All stuff between Vorenus and Pullo. It's interesting how their relationship has changed, but i'm feel sorry for Pullo when Vorenus thought that he might be one of Niobe's lovers.

I can't wait for the next episode. :)